So it took until 3rd grade

[Sea Dangles]

I would trust the judgement of the educators and leave it at that.If my child was kicked (a little kick) and called names I wouldn't want it to happen again.It's the schools responsibility to make sure the little angel doesn't cross the line again.I also wouldn't see any humor in my child getting out of line or acting disrespectful but I guess I'm old fashioned.If it were my nephew I'd laugh,but not my child.My expectations are different I guess.If it was indeed out of character,hopefully some consequences will prevent a repeat offense.If it's treated like a joke you will reap what you sow.Kids can be mean,especially girls who get catty at a young age.
My oldest son has run into discipline problems in jr. high and that is the only reason he is being waitlisted for private high school.Now he understands the results of his actions,but it's a tough lesson.His grades are great and he takes all honors classes and he just last week entered the jr honor society.But character issues are not ignored by good schools,nor should they be.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I would trust the judgement of the educators and leave it at that.If my child was kicked (a little kick) and called names I wouldn't want it to happen again.It's the schools responsibility to make sure the little angel doesn't cross the line again.I also wouldn't see any humor in my child getting out of line or acting disrespectful but I guess I'm old fashioned.If it were my nephew I'd laugh,but not my child.My expectations are different I guess.If it was indeed out of character,hopefully some consequences will prevent a repeat offense.If it's treated like a joke you will reap what you sow.Kids can be mean,especially girls who get catty at a young age.
My oldest son has run into discipline problems in jr. high and that is the only reason he is being waitlisted for private high school.Now he understands the results of his actions,but it's a tough lesson.His grades are great and he takes all honors classes and he just last week entered the jr honor society.But character issues are not ignored by good schools,nor should they be.

Dangles,, your're missing the facts - no teacher or admistrator saw this. it was a Mom calling the school complaining about my daughter. My questions for the principal - did you speak to the other girl directly? Did you speak to their teachers? OR, did you just take what the Mom said as fact and go to my daughter? When the principal questioned my daughter , she didnt tell her what happened, didnt giver her side. She is very shy. My daughter told us the opposite story, that this girl was hassling her. Called her names, and kicked her, She did those things back. She came up to my daughter and said - my number one enemy and hassled her. Thats not my daughter. She barely talks to her friends never mind starting trouble with a stranger. What I think happened is this other girl started and my daughter didnt back down and this girl is looking for attention - she has a whiny Mom that stays home and does nothing so called to protect her precious. Sort of your standard bully IMHO, picking on the quiet kids and having overprtotective parents. I told my daughter that if I find out she is lying she will regret it. Trust me, she will. I dont screw around with my kids and I dont let them get away with anything. I can guarantee that I've talked to my kids teachers more that anyone you know. Even when there are no issues. BUT.... I witness first hand the helicopter parents that believe their fat little spoiled brats are angels and do no wrong. The administrators cater to these people.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I would trust the judgement of the educators and leave it at that.If my child was kicked (a little kick) and called names I wouldn't want it to happen again.It's the schools responsibility to make sure the little angel doesn't cross the line again.I also wouldn't see any humor in my child getting out of line or acting disrespectful but I guess I'm old fashioned.If it were my nephew I'd laugh,but not my child.My expectations are different I guess.If it was indeed out of character,hopefully some consequences will prevent a repeat offense.If it's treated like a joke you will reap what you sow.Kids can be mean,especially girls who get catty at a young age.
My oldest son has run into discipline problems in jr. high and that is the only reason he is being waitlisted for private high school.Now he understands the results of his actions,but it's a tough lesson.His grades are great and he takes all honors classes and he just last week entered the jr honor society.But character issues are not ignored by good schools,nor should they be.

I would have a hard time trusting the schools judgement if they hadn't heard both sides of the story. Administrators and teachers are terrified of parents who call up and say "my little Johhnie was picked on by another boy", or "so and so called my little Mary hurtful names".
Maybe you think it's best if the schools take care of your children's problems. My son will learn to stand up for himself, while also being respectful of others. In the second week of school this year, a kid a year older was giving him a hard time on the bus. I told him to ask the kid why he was doing it since he didn't even know my son. I also told him to tell the kid he will sit with whomever he wants to sit next to . The kid didn't have an answer why he picked on him and when My son sat in the seat across from him, the kid started being nice to him.

If it's a case of someone being physical with my kid, I want my kid to stop it then and there. He's not going to beat anyone up, but he won't be bullied either. If it's a case of him being disrespectful to another student or a school worker, I want to know about it. I won't tolerate a disrespectful attitude form him because he knows better. He also knows to ignore petty insults and not to run to a teacher about them.

Raising kids is a hard (and rewarding) job. We can either do it ourselves, or let someone else do it. I prefer to do it myself, along wiht my wife who feels the same way as me. That way, my child won't have any excuses when he screws up, which I'm sure he will plenty of times.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by fishbones

I would have a hard time trusting the schools judgement if they hadn't heard both sides of the story. Administrators and teachers are terrified of parents who call up and say "my little Johhnie was picked on by another boy", or "so and so called my little Mary hurtful names".
Maybe you think it's best if the schools take care of your children's problems. My son will learn to stand up for himself, while also being respectful of others. In the second week of school this year, a kid a year older was giving him a hard time on the bus. I told him to ask the kid why he was doing it since he didn't even know my son. I also told him to tell the kid he will sit with whomever he wants to sit next to . The kid didn't have an answer why he picked on him and when My son sat in the seat across from him, the kid started being nice to him.

If it's a case of someone being physical with my kid, I want my kid to stop it then and there. He's not going to beat anyone up, but he won't be bullied either. If it's a case of him being disrespectful to another student or a school worker, I want to know about it. I won't tolerate a disrespectful attitude form him because he knows better. He also knows to ignore petty insults and not to run to a teacher about them.

Raising kids is a hard (and rewarding) job. We can either do it ourselves, or let someone else do it. I prefer to do it myself, along wiht my wife who feels the same way as me. That way, my child won't have any excuses when he screws up, which I'm sure he will plenty of times.

I think your wrong about schools being terrified by parents calling.If they get a call regarding an incident that was physical it can't be ignored.I think the administrators do probably roll their eyes when a parent is unwilling to just move on after such a minor incident.They did,after all,just notify Jimmy.This isn't an accusation,more along the lines of spreading information which is known as communication.I wouldn't misinterpret this as the school parenting.As the father of three children I've seen the difference and can say without reservation my youngest wouldn't be disrespectful to any adult regardless of circumstance.He knows better, even as a first grader.