wow, Im actually suprised

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Like, stimulus is bad, unless it is coming to my state...

I don't judge him on that. I think voters will.

You have to remember that when he made that speech, Obama was going to save the country with the stimulus package. In hindsight, Jindal proved to be right about it being a waste. He also said that more government intervention was going to be bad for the country, which has been the case so far.

I'm not saying Jindal is a great Presidential candidate right now, but he looks pretty good when compared to some of the others. His approval rating in his home state is excellent, and the skeletons in his closet are much more easily explained than some of the other Republicans'.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by fishbones

You have to remember that when he made that speech, Obama was going to save the country with the stimulus package. In hindsight, Jindal proved to be right about it being a waste.

But he still put his hand out. Other gov's rejected the money and associated projects (like Christie w/ the tunnel) even if the merit might have been there...

I agree with RIJ, I've yet to see a viable candidate emerge....

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

But he still put his hand out. Other gov's rejected the money and associated projects (like Christie w/ the tunnel) even if the merit might have been there...

I agree with RIJ, I've yet to see a viable candidate emerge....

If I remember correctly, and that's a big if, Jindal rejected provisions for a big chunk of stimulus money. The money he accepted was for schools and jobs, and was used for those things.

Again, I don't think he's the ideal candidate, but I think he'd have a better chance than some of the other choices. And remember, a lot of people didn't think Obama was a viable candidate back in 2008.

As for "taking the evil you know over the evil you don't know", I'd take a chance that anyone else could only be an improvement.

[mosholu]

I like a lot about Christie's message but a year or two in public office, by the time of the election, is not a lot of experience or a record to evaluate whether he would be a good president.

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

As for "taking the evil you know over the evil you don't know", I'd take a chance that anyone else could only be an improvement.

People were saying the same thing about Bush in 2004.

The GOP has some good people to work with but there's a good chance the party will rip itself apart rather then appeal to the middle. A number of the best candidates are an election cycle away from being ready.

I think if the economy continues to slowly improve and none of the foreign situations deteriorate Obama has a decent chance at re-election. Libya is certainly a wild card that could help/hurt considerably.

If the trend come election season isn't down, independent voters are going to give Obama a lot of slack for enduring a very challenging presidency.

-spence

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by fishbones

If I remember correctly, and that's a big if, Jindal rejected provisions for a big chunk of stimulus money. The money he accepted was for schools and jobs, and was used for those things.

He rejected money to extend unemployment. Not sure if he refused anything else. but he's still a pol: ThinkProgress Jindal takes credit for stimulus, presents constituents with jumbo-sized stimulus check.

[fishbones]

Really Bryan? Think Progress is your source? I didn't think even you were liberal enough to use that as a source.

I wonder what the people he represents would have done if he rejected the entire stimulus that was available? He played it pretty well by playing both sides of the fence. Maybe he's a better politician than you think? By the way, he rejected about $98 million.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Really Bryan? Think Progress is your source? I didn't think even you were liberal enough to use that as a source.

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No, but I can google too

Originally Posted by fishbones

I wonder what the people he represents would have done if he rejected the entire stimulus that was available? He played it pretty well by playing both sides of the fence. Maybe he's a better politician than you think? By the way, he rejected about $98 million.

I seem to recall a good bit on the Daily show about this, where Jindal 'rejects 2.8 Billion in stimulus, but accepts 2.7 Billion in stimulus' suggesting the 98Mil was essentially a token rejection, but I don't have time to look it up before I need to finish up and get out of the office.