Obama is a scumbag

[The Dad Fisherman]

Hey Paul, Don't forget all the people that chimed in about "How he is the president and face of our country and no matter what he should be respected" when people were dissing the last Prez....don't see any of them chiming in here to offer up that same argument.

I Guess he's getting a "Pass"

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Hey Paul, Don't forget all the people that chimed in about "How he is the president and face of our country and no matter what he should be respected" when people were dissing the last Prez....don't see any of them chiming in here to offer up that same argument.

I Guess he's getting a "Pass"

Can't you respect the office without respecting the person holding it? I try to stay away from personal attacks on the POTUS, myself. I don't know him to judge him that way, but his performance at his job is certainly fair game.

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Hey Paul, Don't forget all the people that chimed in about "How he is the president and face of our country and no matter what he should be respected" when people were dissing the last Prez....don't see any of them chiming in here to offer up that same argument.

I Guess he's getting a "Pass"

I used to think that the President should always be respected no matter what but I'm starting to think differently. Maybe they get too much respect causing them to act the way they do. I guess it's a fine line between criticism and respect. I'm not condoning the name calling but to change topics.......................... was Clinton a scum bag? Should we have respected Clinton with his "acts" in the oval office? Maybe, maybe not.....most other man would have been called scum bags or worse in the same situation

[mosholu]

I do not agree with Obama on a lot of points and would have a difficult time voting for him again but I do respect him as the President of our country. To Piscator's point, I believe all these guys who get to the top spot are political animals and probably are not the nicest of people to deal with.
To Jim's point of this thread I went back and looked at the text of the President's speech, the two relevant paragraphs I have quoted below, and I think your characterization of the speech in your first post which was in quotes no less is quite a way off the mark.

text of the Presdient's speech taken from Lexuis/Nexius:

"This is a vision that says up to 50 million Americans have to lose their health insurance in order for us to reduce the deficit. And who are those 50 million Americans? Many are someone’s grandparents who wouldn’t be able afford nursing home care without Medicaid. Many are poor children. Some are middle-class families who have children with autism or Down’s syndrome. Some are kids with disabilities so severe that they require 24-hour care. These are the Americans we’d be telling to fend for themselves.

Worst of all, this is a vision that says even though America can’t afford to invest in education or clean energy; even though we can’t afford to care for seniors and poor children, we can somehow afford more than $1 trillion in new tax breaks for the wealthy. Think about it. In the last decade, the average income of the bottom 90% of all working Americans actually declined. The top 1% saw their income rise by an average of more than a quarter of a million dollars each. And that’s who needs to pay less taxes? They want to give people like me a two hundred thousand dollar tax cut that’s paid for by asking thirty three seniors to each pay six thousand dollars more in health costs? That’s not right, and it’s not going to happen as long as I’m President."