Ban the Striper Cup now!!!

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by striper774

This 1@36 is for you big cow hunters.How about someone who fishes back rivers(me).

To be blunt, I say tough #^&#^&#^&#^&.

1@36 worked in the moratorium years. combined with reduced commercial pressure, the bass would be a lot better off!

I am firmly convinced SF has not come out in favor of 1@36" b/c most of the members can't catch fish at 36".

Last couple of years the fluke limit (20.5" at one point) limited many anglers, especially those that didn't adapt, to not catching many 'keepers'. So what, them's the rules.

If it is better for the bass, suck it up, adapt and change tactics. you'll find some bigger fish

[striper774]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

To be blunt, I say tough #^&#^&#^&#^&.

1@36 worked in the moratorium years. combined with reduced commercial pressure, the bass would be a lot better off!

I am firmly convinced SF has not come out in favor of 1@36" b/c most of the members can't catch fish at 36".

Last couple of years the fluke limit (20.5" at one point) limited many anglers, especially those that didn't adapt, to not catching many 'keepers'. So what, them's the rules.

If it is better for the bass, suck it up, adapt and change tactics. you'll find some bigger fish

It is tough chit that we all have to go through this.You can tell me all you want to change my tactics i'll get bigger fish.That's not the point.If they come up with a 36'limit i'll abide by the law.What i was trying to get was a way the angler that has slim to no chance to catch a fish that size.Come fish where we do and see how you like it.Maby you could explain to me how to change my tactics to catch a bigger fish.

[Just n time]

Those of you who don't want to change and save the bass fine, when you catch nothing in a few years you can ask yourself why and look in the mirror.Conservation starts at home,some of you are hell bent on watching the stocks crash because you don't want people to"tell you" how to fish. You have every right to do that and will pay the price in the long run.The price is no fish, if that is what you want ok.if you don't then you will have to change your position. If you eat doughnuts all day and the doctor tells you you are going to get diabetes but you refuse to listen because you have the" right to eat them" fine,but don't blame the doctor when you have to inject insulin everyday to stay alive.Like I said,every decision has a consequence.

[piemma]

Come fish where we do and see how you like it.Maby you could explain to me how to change my tactics to catch a bigger fish.[/QUOTE]

I am sorry. I do not get your point. If there are no 36" fish where you fish, then go somewhere else where there are. It is really simple.

Just because you are obviously, fishing in a a striper nursery, doesn't mean we have to keep the size limit down.

BTW, it is not about YOU! It is about developing and keeping a sustainable fishery.

[striper774]

Originally Posted by piemma

Come fish where we do and see how you like it.Maby you could explain to me how to change my tactics to catch a bigger fish.

I am sorry. I do not get your point. If there are no 36" fish where you fish, then go somewhere else where there are. It is really simple.

Just because you are obviously, fishing in a a striper nursery, doesn't mean we have to keep the size limit down.

BTW, it is not about YOU! It is about developing and keeping a sustainable fishery.[/QUOTE]

Your right it's not about me it's about the fish.My point was to let people know what's happened to the fish that used to be abundent in these rivers.Maby now you could call it a nursery.I like the back rivers and small stripers are also fun to catch on ultra lite tackle.The thing that bothers me is not being able to feed my friend who is in failing health due to serving our country years ago.I don't have much opportunity to get around to different spots to fish.So ok 36" it is.Who is going to help me with my mission to keep a fillet or two in my freezer to help someone that in a short while you can say gave his life for his country and fellow man.I only take to feed them as it is an ultimate reward for my soul to sit and eat with him something he loves.It's an honor and a privlege to be in his company.You can tell me tough chit all you want,i guess it is.

[piemma]

[Fly Rod]

Even tho female striped bass can reproduce at the age of four years, many do not spawn at that age. Normally they do not start to spawn till the age of six years and at this age they average a length of twenty eight inches and therefore you have the regs mostly set at a legal minimum catch size of 28 inches, giving the striper at least one spawning year before being caught. Maybe they should raise the keeper size limit so that the female can get two or three seasons to spawn. Remember that when they re-opened the catching of striped bass the size was about 34 inches to keep and the fish rebounded to great numbers which gave them six spawning years before going on the dinner table. Some striper's do not spawn every year.

And for anyone to blame the Striper Club for the reduction of the striped bass population is absurd. You have bait and tackle shops, clubs and bar rooms up and down the coast holding tournaments.

[JohnR]

The Striper Cup is but one minuscule cog in all of this discussion. You can come up with 100 more effective methods from the logical to the absurd.

We need to conserve more, we need to do better, but for anything of any substance to happen, fisheries REGULATIONS must change.

Maybe I saw you at some of the meetings, maybe I didn't, but there have not been mush by way of meetings that will have a real IMPACT. The only meeting in recent memories was the fall's coastal meeting schedule to further INCREASE the commercial take, which was fortunately well attended by people to thwart that effort. Discussing the Striper Cup doesn't even equate to any meaningful reductions. It might not be right, but its what we have to work with.

The significant majority here practice considerable C&R.

Conservation starts at home, well, if gas prices are any indication, practicing full C&R will have even less impact if factoring 8% C&R mortality against less trips due to $$