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04-29-2011, 08:32 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Well put, numbskull. I think every picture I've ever seen of him shows him dragging a bass out of the water or up the beach with his hand firmly planted up under the gill plate. I doubt he was planning on releasing any of those fish.
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but many a fool in his youth has become wise in his old age.
It was a good article and he sums it up by saying -
greedy coms, bad regulations and reckless sport fisherman (noting people wanting to be the latest internet hero or win kill tournments )are all to blame for the ALMOST certain collapse of the fishery.
can anyone honestly disagree with that?
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04-29-2011, 09:45 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Easton, MA
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
but many a fool in his youth has become wise in his old age.
It was a good article and he sums it up by saying -
greedy coms, bad regulations and reckless sport fisherman (noting people wanting to be the latest internet hero or win kill tournments )are all to blame for the ALMOST certain collapse of the fishery.
can anyone honestly disagree with that?
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I agree with protecting the fish and practicing C&R. Like many others, I keep a couple of fish a year for the table and carefully release the rest of them. If the stocks decline that badly, it's bad for everyone. I just find it ironic that the author of the article is someone who's made a living off of having his picture taken with dead bass. Maybe he has had a change of heart, who knows. Or maybe he has an ulterior motive.
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04-29-2011, 10:22 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Originally Posted by fishbones
I agree with protecting the fish and practicing C&R. Like many others, I keep a couple of fish a year for the table and carefully release the rest of them. If the stocks decline that badly, it's bad for everyone. I just find it ironic that the author of the article is someone who's made a living off of having his picture taken with dead bass. Maybe he has had a change of heart, who knows. Or maybe he has an ulterior motive.
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Maybe if enough people read the article and believe him to be truthful and sincere, they may just practice more C&R.
And there's also a chance that he started this increased C&R movement to decrease the number of large fish, thus leaving more for him/his group should they parttake in the Striper Cup?
Remember a leopard can't change its spots.
A man can change his ways, but it usually take a major event to make them change!
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04-29-2011, 03:01 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Originally Posted by FishermanTim
And there's also a chance that he started this increased C&R movement to decrease the number of large fish, thus leaving more for him/his group should they parttake in the Striper Cup?
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I doubt that Frank could find 9 other guys who'd want to fish with him.
Seriously---if you mention his name to a lot of guys down-Cape, better cover your ears if they're sensitive. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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04-29-2011, 06:52 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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 ....disagree to some extent
My father has 10 brothers and sisters
My mother has 9 brothers and sisters
I enjoy eating fish while at the same time, not paying for it...but far greater than that...I love helping those who cannot do what I do, for whatever reason.
It's not only the smile on their faces, but more the fact that they gather weekly in large groups for a fish fry, bake or both, the " old country" way,,,,and of course, they invite ME  !!! My family is VERY giving. They are very involved in church functions as well as simply helping others out. They DO go door to door with cooked items to families that they KNOW are less fortunate. If I can contribute in some small way, I'm all for it.
Too many people on here (fishing/board s) are very quick to pass judgment on people who decide to keep their legal limit. Almost as if one should feel guilty about it  ....
I will continue to keep my legally allotted limit regardless of what others think or say. I'm not going to beat my chest about how many fish I catch or don't catch, but if the walks not too far, and I'm not too lazy that day....my limit is coming home with me.
I understand that every little bit counts, but we are but a mere splinter in this messed up fisheries management debacle. I have no problem with lowering the limit to 1 fish at whatever size, but stop looking at me like I'm a crook when I take a fish home with me.
OK....stepping off the soap box now.... 
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04-30-2011, 07:20 PM
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Woodwker99
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Smiths point NY
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I only keep 1 -28" fish a year. the rest go back.
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04-30-2011, 09:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
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I still find it amazing how many of the old guard still lay blame on FD for writing about the cape but never say a disparaging word about Lyman and Woolner.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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05-01-2011, 07:06 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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as far as fd- better late than never...
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05-01-2011, 04:36 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Originally Posted by DZ
I still find it amazing how many of the old guard still lay blame on FD for writing about the cape but never say a disparaging word about Lyman and Woolner.
DZ
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I've never met Frank, and personally, I have nothing against the guy.
But, I think there's more to why he's so disliked down-Cape beyond the fact that he wrote about it.
And on the subject at hand, I don't think that Frank has fished commercially since the bass came back, so he can preach C&R nowadays with credibility in my book. My fishing partner has probably sold more bass than Frank did in his life, and fished commercially long after Frank stopped, and while he isn't total C&R, he never keeps a bass over 32" for the table now.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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05-01-2011, 07:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: hatches
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his jab at the asmfc & seals was pretty humorous
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05-01-2011, 08:30 PM
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Land OF Forgotten Toys
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Central MA
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I agree RB that was humorous.
I don't know Frank but I have no reason to think he can not change his beliefs unless some one I trust tells me otherwise. I hope he preaches C and R more often and in more publications.
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05-01-2011, 11:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: N. H. Seacoast
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While I won't challenge anyone for keeping their limit, especially as long as commercial fishing is allowed for stripers. What I got most from this thread is that we do need to reduce the limit on stripers because we will not self regulate. In reading Frank's article I also agree that as long as there is a price on stripers, illegal sales by both Recs and commercial will continue along with poor catch practices.
The same message is in an article in the May issue of On The Water. Again by a person who used to fish commercially for them. The understanding of what is happening is getting out and to me it doesn't matter who the messenger is as long as it gets out.
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