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05-30-2011, 07:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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Diawa SP Minnow.
So last year i picked one up at M&D's, i was so sure it would be an absolute killer. Casts like a dream for what it is, has a gorgeous finish and looks like a winner. But i never did catch a fish with it. It was weird for me, i had confidence in it even after the total lack of success. Once last year an one of those days at the canal when everything in the box caught fish that didnt get sniff. I was even throwing unweighted sluggos McKenna style and spanking the fish, but the SP got nothing. Another time at block the only lures that were catching were greenish mambo minnows, the SP nothing... Who loves em, who hates em? Anyone else have the same experience as me?
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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05-30-2011, 07:54 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
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05-30-2011, 08:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Narragansett
Posts: 903
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I used the mackeral pattern with moderate results last season after a friend raved about his success. . . called it his new secret weapon.
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05-30-2011, 09:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
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I've trolled it from my yak and had a couple of small takes.Nothing to write home about.
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05-30-2011, 10:01 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Keep on fishing it. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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05-30-2011, 10:23 AM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Rob I've had decent success with them fishing them with a go pause method of retreive. Holding the reel handle still and working the whole rod itself around the stationary handle for the retreive causing reactionary strikes pretty regularly. I think the Rapid acceleration and deceleration makes them throw caution to the wind and they just crush it.
take note of rip formations as well as current seams, on your retreive try staying in front of the rip line, then center etc. Ahead, middle, back. Hang it in front of em like a meatball  . Dead swings trying to positions ahead! Middle and or through also help. Not the end all and I'm sure very basic direction but these are things I've noticed helped me with them. best of luck.
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Last edited by ThrowingTimber; 05-30-2011 at 10:29 AM..
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05-30-2011, 10:27 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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IMO the x rap is a better made, better casting, and overall better plug. Caught some of my best fish last year in canal on that in mack pattern. Got 4 in my bag right now and hope to ruin them all in next week or 3. And yes Vic has the right idea as to fish them. I almost jig them in the rips,for lack of a better word, pull up and let fall back in current repeatedly, with really not a lot of reeling until they get in too close. I luv to fish most plugs against the tide and this plug shines doing that.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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05-30-2011, 12:25 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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You heathen! First it was Polish Shads and now Rapala X-raps!
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05-30-2011, 07:49 PM
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Hernia Pikie Maker
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
Posts: 1,176
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i did good last year swinging them thru a ripline funny thing is i don't really care for the swimming action it don't seen to dive much if the rips 60-80 feet out I'm sure its deep out there...but the fish hit it a foot from the surface... plug took a beating bent the hook wires...i just bought 2 more lol they work
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its no ones fault
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05-30-2011, 08:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 794
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I Picked one up this year, fished it half a dozen times or so, not even a bump. I guess I'll keep trying it and hope for better luck.
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05-30-2011, 11:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kingston, Ma
Posts: 2,294
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Roy L was kind enough to hook me up with one 2 weeks ago.
Only thing I caught so far is my finger. Hooks on the S.O.B are SHARP.....casts like a missle for a little plug. I have always been a HUGE fan of Yozuri Crystal Minnows (red head/ white body) and I always fished em the way Dr Timber speaks of so eloquently. Very similar.
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05-31-2011, 02:08 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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2 weeks ago, I watched the great Mr. T. Orlando SMOKE fish with that plug!
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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05-31-2011, 10:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,883
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I've had 2 instances since December when it was all they would take.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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05-31-2011, 09:12 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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Its still in the bag. Im going to try Dr Timbers technique. Very informative. Id say thats about worthy of next years cold as a bastard how to threads. Thanks.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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06-01-2011, 05:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,974
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Caught quite a few nice fish with that lure last year! Put aside my redfins, bombers, and mambos. Casts well, swims well, right out of the box. Split rings seem a little weak so I change them.
Last edited by Rmarsh; 08-26-2023 at 05:57 AM..
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06-01-2011, 08:22 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmarsh
Split rings seem a little weak so I change them.
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Worst split rings ever!
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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06-01-2011, 09:57 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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It's a niche plug .. doesn't catch all of the time ,, not even some of the time ... went thru my all my go to's ,,, nada .. I saw bait spray ,, put the xrap on and got a bump .. put the sp minnow on and fish almost every cast to 30#'s .. Only thing scary about that plug is the tiny hooks .. keep bending them back ,, Tempted to go larger hooks but would probably kill it .. That plug stays in the bag for those rare occasions they are keyed in on small . It's a thin plug ,,no problem carrying it .. I have blue mack ,,, green mack ,, but did well recently with the greenish , flashy side with the black line on it . so happy i had it with me .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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06-01-2011, 10:23 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Upgrade the hooks, too. I use a 6x VMC 1/0 on the belly and a size 1 on the tail. The smaller the hook, the stronger you need the metal to be. If they come with 4x, those aren't strong enough. 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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06-01-2011, 10:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Westport, MA.
Posts: 560
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i've done well with them. Schoolies mostly. But i carry them at all times, like Eddie said, small enough to carry in the bag, all of them.
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Stan Gibbs Cape Cod Canal Fishermans Classic
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06-02-2011, 10:49 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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41" heavy 25 #'s ,,, since upgraded to 6X ,,,,, thanks Ditch .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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06-02-2011, 11:29 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Congrats Eddie. I threw one today but only got tiny fish
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06-02-2011, 02:18 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Congrats Eddie. I threw one today but only got tiny fish
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not a tiny fish lure ... been getting some nice fish on it ,.. That fish today was loaded with sand eels ,, explains a lot .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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06-03-2011, 05:28 PM
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Hernia Pikie Maker
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
Posts: 1,176
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grabbed 4 fish to high teens never changed rings or hooks lol danger is my middle name lol
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its no ones fault
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06-04-2011, 12:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 40
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First split ring fail ever (on any lure though i change many) for me yesterday with a SP. Will change them all now. There was a time yesterday before "it" happen that I caught a dozen fish on the SP while everyone else was throwing poppers and catching almost nothing. After that the pencils were the way to go as most of fish were too far out for the SP.
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06-04-2011, 12:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,680
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There's always 1 in the bag.
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It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black.
DEMOTIVATORS®
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06-04-2011, 07:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 512
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Just curious, those not having great daytime success - are you using a heavy leader? The canal is one of those places where during those those clear days you get more hookups with the lighter leader.
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06-04-2011, 08:23 PM
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Scarecrow
Join Date: May 2003
Location: bedford ma
Posts: 637
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The split rings fail after two or three good fish. I added a better split ring and a 4X VMC hook (2/0? same size, stolen from another plug) on the belly, and lost the tail hook as these are small plugs and tend to be inhaled. Set up like this, the plug will go up to 4 feet deep and I like the action even better.
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06-05-2011, 09:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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Update:
They work. But then again most everything seemed to be working the last couple days. There was one time when the fish got picky and that was all they would take.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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06-05-2011, 03:48 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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I bought one yesterday but haven't had a chance to use it yet
they look and seem weighted right, Change those hooks and split rings because what they come with are weak I bent one with my finger
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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06-08-2011, 09:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 151
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During stupid fishing on the canal last friday, we learned you can catch 4 to 5 good fish before needing to replace the hooks and rings.
For those of you that want it to dive deeper:
Take the tail hook off, and put on a 2/0 4x VMC treble and a nice split ring on the belly. It dives about 3-5 feet that way and the swimming action is much more intense.
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