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Old 06-02-2011, 08:06 AM   #1
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Are you overfilling the spools......with the memory in the mono and if you are over filling they'll start to unravel on their own....try taking off some line and see if that helps.
Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.

3 BR's are 6500 and 1 BR is the 4500.

I originally had all PowerPro but started to go with mono after loosing some nice fish on the PP (50lb).

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Old 06-02-2011, 08:14 AM   #2
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Arrow the scientific method

any time your doing an experiment

you need a control to measure against

so you could single out one BR to just cast a "heavy plug"
for distance

try five or six cast and retrieves and see how it works....
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Old 06-05-2011, 08:24 PM   #3
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any time your doing an experiment

you need a control to measure against
Agreed! This is part of the scientific method, actually.

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Old 06-02-2011, 08:50 AM   #4
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Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.

3 BR's are 6500 and 1 BR is the 4500.

I originally had all PowerPro but started to go with mono after loosing some nice fish on the PP (50lb).
Can also be causing issues if the stripping guide is too small for the reels. lots of slap and odd line issues.

50 is way too high IMHO. I won't put Mono over 20 on most spinning reels, 30 on one used in really gnarly areas....

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Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.

3 BR's are 6500 and 1 BR is the 4500.

I originally had all PowerPro but started to go with mono after loosing some nice fish on the PP (50lb).
live is possibly twisting during releases and retrieves. line twist + overfill results in the issues that your having, where overfill without line twist may not.

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Old 06-02-2011, 03:58 PM   #6
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I never cared for the baitrunner line of reels but what Josh said is right.
If you are livelining, Macs, Pogies, Scup whatever. You should be using a conventional. Gives you better control with the reel in free spool and the clicker on. Just my opinion and it's what I have found to be successful

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Old 06-02-2011, 05:57 PM   #7
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I never cared for the baitrunner line of reels but what Josh said is right.
If you are livelining, Macs, Pogies, Scup whatever. You should be using a conventional. Gives you better control with the reel in free spool and the clicker on. Just my opinion and it's what I have found to be successful
How do you manage 4 rods at once? Its fun with bait runners, can't imagine what it would be like with with conventionals....

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How do you manage 4 rods at once? Its fun with bait runners, can't imagine what it would be like with with conventionals....
Leave the clicker on. throw the clutch, set the hook...

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Leave the clicker on. throw the clutch, set the hook...
I spent the whole day casting a Avet with backlash after backlash, so I'm a little against the convech thing... So if I just put the clicker on that will stop the reel from backlashing? Interesting? Does it matter if I have 50 lb braid on it?

Buzz we'll need to try that next time...

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Need to educate your thumb, as well as setting the reel for the weight of your lure or bait. Took me awhile to figure it out, but would not go back to livelining on a spinner. I use an Abu Record 61 for this. (Still plug the surf with vs 200.) Still get the occasional birdsnest, but they are pilot error. Its all in the thumb....

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Old 06-02-2011, 07:00 PM   #11
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I spent the whole day casting a Avet with backlash after backlash
damn yuppie reel, thats your problem....


go get some Newells or just use the simplest reel you can find.

Can't beat a squidder or jigmaster for live-lining.....

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Old 06-03-2011, 04:34 AM   #12
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Leave the clicker on. throw the clutch, set the hook...
What Bryan said.

For the record, why 4 rods at once? If you have 2 out you are fine. 4 rods with 4 live baits swimming is asking for trouble with crossed lines. What happens if you get 2 takes at once? 2 guys you are fine. 3 or 4 takes and unless you have 3 or 4 guys someone is going to get tangles, crossed or break off.

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Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.
This makes sense, when you're reeling in the line is likely not wound as tight on the spool as when they were first loaded.
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