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06-02-2011, 08:06 AM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
Posts: 6,414
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Are you overfilling the spools......with the memory in the mono and if you are over filling they'll start to unravel on their own....try taking off some line and see if that helps.
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Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.
3 BR's are 6500 and 1 BR is the 4500.
I originally had all PowerPro but started to go with mono after loosing some nice fish on the PP (50lb).
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06-02-2011, 08:14 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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the scientific method
any time your doing an experiment
you need a control to measure against
so you could single out one BR to just cast a "heavy plug"
for distance
try five or six cast and retrieves and see how it works....
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06-05-2011, 08:24 PM
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Work hard. Fish harder.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 764
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
any time your doing an experiment
you need a control to measure against
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Agreed! This is part of the scientific method, actually.
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06-02-2011, 08:50 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.
3 BR's are 6500 and 1 BR is the 4500.
I originally had all PowerPro but started to go with mono after loosing some nice fish on the PP (50lb).
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Can also be causing issues if the stripping guide is too small for the reels. lots of slap and odd line issues.
50 is way too high IMHO. I won't put Mono over 20 on most spinning reels, 30 on one used in really gnarly areas....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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06-02-2011, 11:10 AM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.
3 BR's are 6500 and 1 BR is the 4500.
I originally had all PowerPro but started to go with mono after loosing some nice fish on the PP (50lb).
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live is possibly twisting during releases and retrieves. line twist + overfill results in the issues that your having, where overfill without line twist may not.
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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06-02-2011, 03:58 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,826
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I never cared for the baitrunner line of reels but what Josh said is right.
If you are livelining, Macs, Pogies, Scup whatever. You should be using a conventional. Gives you better control with the reel in free spool and the clicker on. Just my opinion and it's what I have found to be successful
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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06-02-2011, 05:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S. Easton
Posts: 1,676
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
I never cared for the baitrunner line of reels but what Josh said is right.
If you are livelining, Macs, Pogies, Scup whatever. You should be using a conventional. Gives you better control with the reel in free spool and the clicker on. Just my opinion and it's what I have found to be successful
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How do you manage 4 rods at once? Its fun with bait runners, can't imagine what it would be like with with conventionals....
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"Always two there are, no more, no less: a master and an apprentice." >> Yoda
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06-02-2011, 06:13 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O.D. Mike
How do you manage 4 rods at once? Its fun with bait runners, can't imagine what it would be like with with conventionals....
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Leave the clicker on. throw the clutch, set the hook... 
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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06-02-2011, 06:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S. Easton
Posts: 1,676
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Leave the clicker on. throw the clutch, set the hook... 
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I spent the whole day casting a Avet with backlash after backlash, so I'm a little against the convech thing... So if I just put the clicker on that will stop the reel from backlashing? Interesting? Does it matter if I have 50 lb braid on it?
Buzz we'll need to try that next time...
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"Always two there are, no more, no less: a master and an apprentice." >> Yoda
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06-02-2011, 06:33 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Need to educate your thumb, as well as setting the reel for the weight of your lure or bait. Took me awhile to figure it out, but would not go back to livelining on a spinner. I use an Abu Record 61 for this. (Still plug the surf with vs 200.) Still get the occasional birdsnest, but they are pilot error. Its all in the thumb....
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06-02-2011, 07:00 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O.D. Mike
I spent the whole day casting a Avet with backlash after backlash
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damn yuppie reel, thats your problem....   
go get some Newells or just use the simplest reel you can find.
Can't beat a squidder or jigmaster for live-lining.....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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06-03-2011, 04:34 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,826
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Leave the clicker on. throw the clutch, set the hook... 
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What Bryan said.
For the record, why 4 rods at once? If you have 2 out you are fine. 4 rods with 4 live baits swimming is asking for trouble with crossed lines. What happens if you get 2 takes at once? 2 guys you are fine. 3 or 4 takes and unless you have 3 or 4 guys someone is going to get tangles, crossed or break off.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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06-02-2011, 07:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
Likely overfilling as it is a fresh load however the mono stays on the spool to begin with no problems: no twist, no unspooling. It is after a few bait releases and retrieves that the issues start.
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This makes sense, when you're reeling in the line is likely not wound as tight on the spool as when they were first loaded.
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