Can Fishing Bring Out the Worst in You?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by slow eddie

i do get a kick out of this "secret spot" stuff. there isn't a place on the striper coast that hasn't been fished hard in the last 50 yrs. i have had guys in their 30's tell me about "their" spot. i haven't the heart to tell them i was fishing the same place, under the same conditions, 50 years ago.
perhaps it is the little boy in all of us.

i.e. Me?

[piemma]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

. I really have no clue what my point is........

but it is a good post

[JoeBass]

I love to fish. I fish every chance I get. But to me there is a definite etiquitte. If someone is in a spot you move on. If it's an open area you move far enough away that you don't affect their fishing. Plain and simple. I've never climbed on top of someone's spot and I've told a bunch of guys they were too close and to move.That's just plain decency.

[Finlander]

Never had problems with friend, but the guys you didn't know that wants the spot right on top of you. Have had it happen during the day and in the middle of the night and it does piss you off. I tend to move away if someone is fishing in the general area I want to fish. Thou can think of one time it worked out, was working a hole on one of the outer Cape beaches, about midnight a couple of guys find me and start to set up right on top of me. Lights on, shinning them on the water, on the beach as they set-up. Pissed off I start walking, the bite where I had be had died, so it was time to move anyways! Found fish again 15 minutes later, so it worked out.

[chrisjoe13]

You just never know. A few weeks ago I bumped onto someone while getting dressed at a spot. I was ready first and didn't wait. I hurried to what is the usual preferred spot. This guy (being a courteous nice guy) walked an extra hundred yards giving me plenty of room. He caught a 42#ER and I caught one 26" schoolie. I displaced him into his best fish of the year (so far).
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[JohnR]

I had someone camp out on my drift a few weeks ago. I had a bit of a burr up my ass and explained I would be likely snagging his line. We did tangle once and he kindly moved and apologized, and then said he knew better fishing etiquette and shouldn't have stopped there to fish in the first place. In the conversation as he was packing to move I did invite him down to where I was seeing that if we fished side by side (or side by each as they say in RI) we wouldn't likely get tangled and I wouldn't have felt like a jerk. Turns out, he seems like good people and if I handled it better maybe i would have a better fishing acquaintance..

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Which, of course, means the best approach is to get laid before going fishing.

You guys are going to have to thank my wife for making me a nice guy.

[Adam_777]

Not me.I fish alone.Don't provide reports and if I do they are lies.I don't take pictures.I just like fishing and the water.

[Rob Rockcrawler]

Why do i miss all the good threads on here before they get yanked. Ive gotten pissy a few times while fishing but usually just bite my tongue and walk away. The canal does bring out the best in us though sometimes. I have told people that we will cross when im drifting eels, i will just drift a little farther and they usually leave. In the surf i havent had many annoying experiences yet. had one little run in on Block last year which kind of surprised me.

[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by fishbones

...... I picked up a bunch of plastic bags, hook packages and a water bottle. For cryin' out loud, take it with you or put it in a trash can. It's not like you're having to carry 50 pound of crap back to your car.

Actually it's more like 5 lbs. of crap located squarely above their shoulders!

[tysdad115]

The one and only time I can remember offering to force my will on someone was at the canal, with someone blatantly crossing Tyler's line when Ty was working perfectly in line with everyone else. The guy was wrong, after two times I offered to impose my will to him if he did it again, and explained Ty was casting in turn with everyone else . He moved after realizing I was right , just couldnt understand how to cast with everyone else and tried blaming moose. Thats about the only time I would really get upset.

[ecduzitgood]

I will gladly fish with courteous people, I will go to war with others who feel I'm fishing their spot and try and push me out. If someone is already there I find another spot, no big deal. People don't have to earn my respect they have to earn my disrespect.

[tattoobob]

I don't get to upset fishing, I'm there to relax and have a good time, there are plenty of other spots to move to if it gets to bad, but I have been known to punch real jerks in the face just ask the guy at the bar after the Bruins Game last December

[nightfighter]

I just don't give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about all the chestbeating. Still happy to help others to a point...But I run solo, and mostly in the dark and dawn hours. Have had exactly one other person out fishing on my boat this year, PaulS. But he's from way out of town. Yeah, I do get followed, but tend to stay away from favorite spots on weekends, especially during the daylight. If someone beats me to a place I wanted, they got up and got live bait before I did, that's all... Share solid, no BS info exclusively with one local guy, who put himself through school many moons ago comm fishing all species down around Montauk. He also lurks here and has posted a handful of times. Select others have my cell phone. Other than bait, you won't get me to talk on the radio.
So this year it is more about me... That is me, enjoying each and every fish. Remembering the long winter months while landing most fish, to put the moment more clearly into focus. Released more quality fish this year than I can remember n the past. No Comm ticket this year. No Striper Cup tourney this year. Just fishin' when I can and fishin' hard. Hopefully smart too. Love my boat. Love livelining. Like Joe, Rockfish, I just don't want to have to tolerate others when I'm out there. I think he and I have reached a similar place, in that neither of us will suffer fools...

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by numbskull

We are all animals (except Sauerkraut who is related to mold).

LMFAO

[mag minnow]

There is no such thing as "my spot".

[tattoobob]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

I just don't give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about all the chestbeating. Still happy to help others to a point...But I run solo, and mostly in the dark and dawn hours. Have had exactly one other person out fishing on my boat this year, PaulS. But he's from way out of town. Yeah, I do get followed, but tend to stay away from favorite spots on weekends, especially during the daylight. If someone beats me to a place I wanted, they got up and got live bait before I did, that's all... Share solid, no BS info exclusively with one local guy, who put himself through school many moons ago comm fishing all species down around Montauk. He also lurks here and has posted a handful of times. Select others have my cell phone. Other than bait, you won't get me to talk on the radio.
So this year it is more about me... That is me, enjoying each and every fish. Remembering the long winter months while landing most fish, to put the moment more clearly into focus. Released more quality fish this year than I can remember n the past. No Comm ticket this year. No Striper Cup tourney this year. Just fishin' when I can and fishin' hard. Hopefully smart too. Love my boat. Love livelining. Like Joe, Rockfish, I just don't want to have to tolerate others when I'm out there. I think he and I have reached a similar place, in that neither of us will suffer fools...

I like the way you think Ross

[GattaFish]

Originally Posted by chrisjoe13

You just never know. A few weeks ago I bumped onto someone while getting dressed at a spot. I was ready first and didn't wait. I hurried to what is the usual preferred spot. This guy (being a courteous nice guy) walked an extra hundred yards giving me plenty of room. He caught a 42#ER and I caught one 26" schoolie. I displaced him into his best fish of the year (so far).
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I knew there was a reason I wanted you to go to block with me,,,

[ProfessorM]

missed it . This working in the day time stuff sucks.

George your wasting your time with this Dr. career stuff. You should be in the comedy game.

[Mike J.]

Originally Posted by tysdad115

The one and only time I can remember offering to force my will on someone was at the canal, with someone blatantly crossing Tyler's line when Ty was working perfectly in line with everyone else. The guy was wrong, after two times I offered to impose my will to him if he did it again, and explained Ty was casting in turn with everyone else . He moved after realizing I was right , just couldnt understand how to cast with everyone else and tried blaming moose. Thats about the only time I would really get upset.

The guy was probably upset Moose was casting twice the distance he was able too!!!

[Arzic Olivier]

Just take real foreigners fishing, they won't ruin your honey holes

More seriously things I read today can be the same everywhere in the (fishing) world. I have a very good friend, who puts some time in boat fishing (OK does not count), a real fisherman : I can never tell wether he is paranoïd or not when he says that other fishermen follow his boat :
- we are only forty-ish and we did not invent fishing...
- the water belongs to everybody
- coincidence happens
-...
However I had to sign a blood oath when that guy took me to the right places at the right moment !

Anyway, I can really be pissed off when I see somebody is at a place I would like to fish, but will leave him alone (also a way not to show that guy that he is fishing a good spot, that he otherwise would not stick to, or might not know how to fish )

And I only take on my boat people I trust, or do not have the luck to own a boat (and I am very sad when they get one )
Well I am not as much into fishnig as I used to be, so I do not think that fishing can bring the worse out of me (anymore); however I understand the kind of sad situations it can get people into

I have been threatened by someone (well another paranoid, but now in jail : poaching when you are a so-called professional charter guide is not a goog idea) while fishing in January a few years ago, when we were probably the only two fools on their boat in the area !
But I also gave bird-names to people crossing my drifts, or even started the engine and voluntarily ruined the fishing just to show how unhappy I was

Forgive my poor english !

P.S. I go fishing with Denis tomorrow
We will launch the boat at , scout the area, catch big and definitely have a good time

[derekl]

i dont get fired up about the little #^&#^&#^&#^& anymore, very rarely when i go somewhere to fish will you beat me to a spot, i know when its gonna be bad out there so ill get there way early if i think i need to, not many guys out there gonna start something with me
weve all had the guy who has no clue cast over us,
one day fishing this spring there were what ended up being about 12 of us that just happened to the same area and some guy parks in the middle of us every cast he hangs me up i was nice the first time, a little loud to get the point across the second time, the third time, T.O stepped in and he guy never made another cast, i think he said something like eery time you cast your just gonna hang up that guym hes twice your size and half your age, i dont think id wanna piss him off,
the guys that take it too far need to meet someone who puts them in there place theres alwauys someone bigger or who can kick your assout there keep it up you will find em one day

i got eway bigger problems then someone on my rock

[piemma]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

I like the way you think Ross

Me too Bob. I run at 2 in the morning. I am off the water by 7 and I never talk on the radio, (other than to talk to Clammer or RIRock).

[bart]

Originally Posted by derekl

one day fishing this spring there were what ended up being about 12 of us that just happened to the same area and some guy parks in the middle of us every cast he hangs me up i was nice the first time, a little loud to get the point across the second time, the third time, T.O stepped in and he guy never made another cast

Tony the Enforcer. don't underestimate his size, and more importantly don't #^&#^&#^&#^& with his drift...

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

missed it . This working in the day time stuff sucks.

George your wasting your time with this Dr. career stuff. You should be in the comedy game.

But cracking Sauerkraut jokes is a limited market.

[JohnnySaxatilis]

I have the opposite problem crowd wise, none of my lame ass friends wanna go out for a PERFECT tide, like last night for example. And its a pain cuz its a buddy system type of spot with a long wade out to the sandbar Waaaaaaaaaa my waders leak, waaaaaaa i gotta work tomorrow, waaaaaaaaa there are noseums. Luckily I rallied my buddy who had just got on the cape... bunch of vaginas

Whos cleaning fish this morning?
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[GregW]

Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis

I have the opposite problem crowd wise, none of my lame ass friends wanna go out for a PERFECT tide, like last night for example. And its a pain cuz its a buddy system type of spot with a long wade out to the sandbar Waaaaaaaaaa my waders leak, waaaaaaa i gotta work tomorrow, waaaaaaaaa there are noseums. Luckily I rallied my buddy who had just got on the cape... bunch of vaginas

Whos cleaning fish this morning?
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I thought I was the only one in that situation. I fish 4 nights a week and half of them I can't find anyone willing to fish.
I've gotta find more poeple to fish with.

[onecastmike2003]

Karma is a bitch.... give it a few months or next year. so his gaurd is down...... and then Its pay back time when you least expect it.

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler

Why do i miss all the good threads on here before they get yanked. Ive gotten pissy a few times while fishing but usually just bite my tongue and walk away. The canal does bring out the best in us though sometimes. I have told people that we will cross when im drifting eels, i will just drift a little farther and they usually leave. In the surf i havent had many annoying experiences yet. had one little run in on Block last year which kind of surprised me.

I love the canal. Great place to meet new fishing buddies!

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[DZ]

I’m pretty easy going when it comes to my favorite pastime of surfcasting but that wasn’t always the case. Many tides ago when I fished for money I often found myself pissed at other fisherman. Each hook-up was $$$. Fishing for $$$ brings out the worst in fishermen.

I’ve witnessed the gold rush shantytown atmosphere on block. Hand guns bandied about, fistfights in the wash, police called down to southwest point to settle disputes. Surf fishing back then was anything but relaxing and not for the faint of heart. But I was hungry for bass back then – if you weren’t aggressive you sat on the beach and let others catch the cows.

I tend to fish mostly alone unless I cast certain spots that have always been what I consider “picket line” locations like lining up on a cobble bar. I would consider the canal such a location where fishing in a crowd should be expected as the norm – especially during daylight. I do like casting in the company of a few guys on this site, Tagger, TattooBob, PaulS, to name a few, as they are good company and very considerate.

Not much “gets my goat” nowadays – although lobster gear buoys are my demon – if I had any guts most wouldn’t be floating “attached” where I fish – but my cooler conscience prevails.

What I’ve also found is that many of the younger casters (and a few of the vets) tend to have no consideration when surfcasting. I attribute this to the fact that many of these new guys didn’t start surfcasting in the more traditional ways of the past. That is starting out with short boots and splash pants, graduating to chest waders, then onto a wetsuit if desired. This gradual transition forced surfcasters to learn how to fish the shallow littoral areas where bass spend a good amount of their time. The younger generation now tend to jump right into a wetsuit and want to swim to the farthest perch they can see, completely ignoring the littoral zone. Because of that many have no clue how to catch shallow water bass in the first two waves and in fact swim right through the bass on their way to that off shore rock in the domain of boats – I call them “I wanna be a boat” casters. This is fine as long as they use some consideration and do not swim right in front of other traditional surfcasters - but many do. They just need a little education.

As I get older I see this surf casting game changing and it’s pretty fascinating to say the least. But I worry that this new generation doesn’t seem to get involved in the issues of fisheries management, public access, etc. This does not bode well for the future of surfcasting.