81lb Bass?

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Do you think it is BS also?

Nice catch there on that fish.

not everybody is a pro
and also not everyone takes photos that make fish look large

After seeing the pics on FS I dont believe it for a sec. Im entitled to my opinion and that fish is a big fish, 50-55lbs tops.... Ill give that. EVERYBODY I know who consistantly catch big fish dont believe it. We all want the record to be broken, would be awesome to see! There is no need for photagraphy tricks, etc... There are pictures on FS where the fish is laid out or held against the body where I say no way.... Most guys I know throw a fish on the deck and can guess the wieght, coming within a pound or of the actual wieght. Im guessing alot of guys who thing this fish is 81lbs have not seen many bass and never a 40, 50 or 60 for that matter. Agian just my opinion...

Remember all the controversey on the WR Fluke?? Look, I had friends that saw AL Mcreynolds fish, it was laid out at the tackle shop for all to see... There was no question the size of that fish, none.. Nobody wants to see legitamate record holders cheated, I think thats what most feel....


I guess I am also privy to more info which I cannot post on here... Look back at the posts and look who was the first to say that it was Greg Meyerson?

His actions have not been normal at all through this whole thing and I bet nobody here would have acted the same...

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

After seeing the pics on FS I dont believe it for a sec. Im entitled to my opinion and that fish is a big fish, 50-55lbs tops.... Ill give that. EVERYBODY I know who consistantly catch big fish dont believe it. We all want the record to be broken, would be awesome to see! There is no need for photagraphy tricks, etc... There are pictures on FS where the fish is laid out or held against the body where I say no way.... Most guys I know throw a fish on the deck and can guess the wieght, coming within a pound or of the actual wieght. Im guessing alot of guys who thing this fish is 81lbs have not seen many bass and never a 40, 50 or 60 for that matter. Agian just my opinion...

Remember all the controversey on the WR Fluke?? Look, I had friends that saw AL Mcreynolds fish, it was laid out at the tackle shop for all to see... There was no question the size of that fish, none.. Nobody wants to see legitamate record holders cheated, I think thats what most feel....


I guess I am also privy to more info which I cannot post on here... Look back at the posts and look who was the first to say that it was Greg Meyerson?

His actions have not been normal at all through this whole thing and I bet nobody here would have acted the same...

I hope you realize that by these accusations, you're also accusing Jack Katzenbach, the owner of the weigh station, with being in cahoots with this guy in perpetrating this hoax, and possibly for attesting to all of his "questionable" fish. You're saying none of his fish, for which weigh slips were submitted in a major tournament, are legit, so you're saying that one or more weighmasters are committing fraud in cahoots with a cheating angler.

Those are pretty strong accusations, Kenny. I hope for your sake, and the sake of your reputation in the angling world, you're in a position to back them up with proof.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by Mike P

I hope you realize that by these accusations, you're also accusing Jack Katzenbach, the owner of the weigh station, with being in cahoots with this guy in perpetrating this hoax, and possibly for attesting to all of his "questionable" fish. You're saying none of his fish, for which weigh slips were submitted in a major tournament, are legit, so you're saying that one or more weighmasters are committing fraud in cahoots with a cheating angler.

Those are pretty strong accusations, Kenny. I hope for your sake, and the sake of your reputation in the angling world, you're in a position to back them up with proof.

I caught enough fish to know bs, Yeah never a 70 or 80, but that aint 80, ill bet my life on it common, are we insane here!!!!!!! you seriously believe it? I was out to dinner with my buddy who's 8 -11 year old kids that caught 40's looked at that fish and said it was bull#^&#^&#^&#^&... feel free to call me Mike 201 412-5783.. I dont have to hide behind the computer, he fed up by submitting those pics to FS it doesnt add up.. 49-50 inch no girth, no shoulders and its 81.88!!! 80 percent of the people on the barn are calling it BS, 100 percent of my friends are...

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

I caught enough fish to know bs, Yeah never a 70 or 80, but that aint 80, ill bet my life on it common, are we insane here!!!!!!! you seriously believe it? I was out to dinner with my buddy who's 8 -11 year old kids that caught 40's looked at that fish and said it was bull#^&#^&#^&#^&... feel free to call me Mike 201 412-5783.. I dont have to hide behind the computer, he fed up by submitting those pics to FS it doesnt add up.. 49-50 inch no girth, no shoulders and its 81.88!!! 80 percent of the people on the barn are calling it BS, 100 percent of my friends are...

Kenny, I've seen pictures where it looks legit, and pictures where it looked 50-ish, depending on the camera angle and how it was held. All I know it that there are multiple reports of it being weighed on a certified scale in front of a lot of people. I don't know the guy. I don't know your friends, and I don't post on or read the bass barn. I know you catch a lot of fish every year, and I know that I've looked at pictures, called BS, and was proven wrong before. The bottom line for me is, some guy is putting his business reputation on the line by attesting to and submitting weigh slips for this guy, and with the prizes that are at stake in the Striper Cup, falsifying those could be a felony in many states, and would be one in Massachusetts. I have to think that a tackle shop owner would be very reluctant to do that for me, not matter how good a friend I was or how much coin I dropped in there every year.

I'll try to give you a call tonight after dinner. If not then, tomorrow afternoon.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Kenny, I've seen pictures where it looks legit, and pictures where it looked 50-ish, depending on the camera angle and how it was held. All I know it that there are multiple reports of it being weighed on a certified scale in front of a lot of people. I don't know the guy. I don't know your friends, and I don't post on or read the bass barn. I know you catch a lot of fish every year, and I know that I've looked at pictures, called BS, and was proven wrong before. The bottom line for me is, some guy is putting his business reputation on the line by attesting to and submitting weigh slips for this guy, and with the prizes that are at stake in the Striper Cup, falsifying those could be a felony in many states, and would be one in Massachusetts. I have to think that a tackle shop owner would be very reluctant to do that for me, not matter how good a friend I was or how much coin I dropped in there every year.

I'll try to give you a call tonight after dinner. If not then, tomorrow afternoon.

Mike, have you seen me argue a catch before, comon, have you seen one shot of a prestine looking fish from him? 49"-50" and 801.88lbs.. Does anybody feel like Pete Vican is being cheated here? My ENTIRE TEAM WILL BOYCOTT the striper cup if they allow this fish and other teams as well! Let him take it to and IGFA Certified wieghmaster, lenght and girth measurements... Submit it to the IGFA and put the story to sleep.. all this drama is BS... Guess OJ was innocent, casey Anthony too...

[Raider Ronnie]

It amazes me how catches of big fish can bring out the worst in people.
I've see it 1st hand by a few on this board who take the OTW striper cup way too serious, for what ? a stupid pin or a cup with bragging rights to say I'm better that you, who the #^&#^&#^&#^& cares..

[rizzo]

Originally Posted by Mike P

I hope you realize that by these accusations, you're also accusing Jack Katzenbach, the owner of the weigh station, with being in cahoots with this guy in perpetrating this hoax, and possibly for attesting to all of his "questionable" fish. You're saying none of his fish, for which weigh slips were submitted in a major tournament, are legit, so you're saying that one or more weighmasters are committing fraud in cahoots with a cheating angler.

Those are pretty strong accusations, Kenny. I hope for your sake, and the sake of your reputation in the angling world, you're in a position to back them up with proof.

People regularly cheat in tournaments!!! Hows the weighmaster going to know if the fish has been stuffed or not unless they rip the fish apart. I wouldnt if I owned a tackleshop, as you have money to make. However, if your scale is certified, you get a reading and fill out the affidavit. From the weighmaster's point of view, what are you gonna do even if you suspect cheating?

You can't take the OTW tournament too seriously as it is a fish stuffers dream. Bring your fish in to a local tackle shop with a clueless employee and you can turn a 50" 38 pounder into a 50 lber pretty easily. We had threads last year about this. Good guys being accused of stuffing, cheated, blah blah. Lie detectors came up, but theyre not 100% dead on. I just like to see things straight up across the board and it gets old hearing about so and so cheating, when they really arent. A few bad ruins it for all. You can have your 10k prize.

In this case we're talking world record status, so I hope if the state of CT certifies it as a record, igfa or whoever, a state bioligist looks at it to confirm theres no tampering. I hope for greg's sake they are already undergoing these investigations to clear up the accusations of cheating. Theres no reason why this can't be accurately documented. IF the fish is not inspected there is not much credibility plain and simple. Really anyone could go in with a 50" fish (easy to come by) and get fancy stuffing it to make it the record - I'd like to see some proof to make this a little more credible.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by rizzo

People regularly cheat in tournaments!!! Hows the weighmaster going to know if the fish has been stuffed or not unless they rip the fish apart. I wouldnt if I owned a tackleshop, as you have money to make. However, if your scale is certified, you get a reading and fill out the affidavit. From the weighmaster's point of view, what are you gonna do even if you suspect cheating?

You can't take the OTW tournament too seriously as it is a fish stuffers dream. Bring your fish in to a local tackle shop with a clueless employee and you can turn a 50" 38 pounder into a 50 lber pretty easily. We had threads last year about this. Good guys being accused of stuffing, cheated, blah blah. Lie detectors came up, but theyre not 100% dead on. I just like to see things straight up across the board and it gets old hearing about so and so cheating, when they really arent. A few bad ruins it for all. You can have your 10k prize.

In this case we're talking world record status, so I hope if the state of CT certifies it as a record, igfa or whoever, a state bioligist looks at it to confirm theres no tampering. I hope for greg's sake they are already undergoing these investigations to clear up the accusations of cheating. Theres no reason why this can't be accurately documented. IF the fish is not inspected there is not much credibility plain and simple. Really anyone could go in with a 50" fish (easy to come by) and get fancy stuffing it to make it the record - I'd like to see some proof to make this a little more credible.

Seriously how much extra weight will you get by stuffing a fish? A few lbs. Cause you sure as hell are not stretching his length.

[rizzo]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

Seriously how much extra weight will you get by stuffing a fish? A few lbs. Cause you sure as hell are not stretching his length.

5 pounds of lead doesnt take up that much room. Look at a 25 pound weight lifting plate, thats cast iron and doesnt take up too much room. Rebar is pretty heavy too. I'm saying the fish should be completely gutted, it wouldnt effect the lovely skin mount he'll get so theres no excuses. If you weigh it at 81 pounds, gut the fish and inspect it, and find nothing in the fish, its hard to argue its not the record. Anyone not allowing this has to be hiding something, or is not in it for the glory. If youre not in it for the glory, it would have been released and would have been just a rumor among a few good friends. You bring a fish forward like that, be ready to defend its status.

[Nebe]

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[Nebe]

buncha great pics here... Story and Photos: Potential World Record Striper