81lb Bass?

[rizzo]

Originally Posted by spence

Don't be a doubter without reason, it will kill your fish karma

-spence

Reasonable doubt - that is what I have. I've yet to see a reason to completely prove it true, so until then I don't believe it given all the things that have happened on this one. More facts pointing toward its false than true.

The IGFA process isn't fact if they don't examine the fish. Its based on someone's claim and it may be true, may not be true. I put my 2 cents in on this one and have nothing more to add. I will not believe it until it goes through the gutting!

[Sea Dangles]

For better or worse gutting isn't part of the process for IGFA or OTW striper cup fish.Although I have been told OTW,like Rizzo,wanted to change the rules midstream. If you have ever seen the IGFA record book then you know they take things seriously. There are numerous line class records for every species. The IGFA is in possession of the leader allegedly used to catch this whopper and the decision will not come in haste. For guys like Rizzo there will never be the proof he hopes for. I would hope that any record,be it all tackle or line class would be submitted with honesty. Beyond that anything negative seems like sour grapes.There are enough cynics in the world to poison the well;they make the impression of a turd in the punch bowl.When you question a mans word it cant be taken lightly.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

For better or worse gutting isn't part of the process for IGFA or OTW striper cup fish.Although I have been told OTW,like Rizzo,wanted to change the rules midstream. If you have ever seen the IGFA record book then you know they take things seriously. There are numerous line class records for every species. The IGFA is in possession of the leader allegedly used to catch this whopper and the decision will not come in haste. For guys like Rizzo there will never be the proof he hopes for. I would hope that any record,be it all tackle or line class would be submitted with honesty. Beyond that anything negative seems like sour grapes.There are enough cynics in the world to poison the well;they make the impression of a turd in the punch bowl.When you question a mans word it cant be taken lightly.

Chris, any idea what difference the leader material will make???? Its gonna be an all tackle record once approved so I dont think it will matter. Its like the OTW Writer took a scale, well that will show the age of the fish, maybe 24 years or so, but in no way that determines the wieght. We all know that the wieght of any fish of the same length can vary greatly. The length to fork, length to tail and girth measurements they will use and am sure to a certain tolerance they will determine if there is anything way off. I am sure with all the controversey they will give a polygraph and if should pass will certify the fish. GM made a bold predictment on his facebook page a few months ago that the world record bass would fall this summer, boy was he right! (The Entire FB Page has been recently removed). I have seen and heard some very valid points made by some experienced anglers regarding this fish and previous fish, and I really dont think there is anything wrong with being a skeptic if there are discrepencies that raise questions. I know you may think otherwise but I did not make a single complaint to OTW prior to this WR Fish, I know there were quite a few complaints by others.

I ask some on the board, out of curiosity, Just by the natural scale of things, how many 40's do you have to catch before you catch a 50? Then how many 50's before you catch a 60? OF course anyone can get lucky and catch a wr, its a big ocean, but the probabilites of catching more 60's than 50's or 40's?

And not that it matters, but the fish is definately not at NE Taxedermy.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by CowHunter

I know you may think otherwise but I did not make a single complaint to OTW prior to this WR Fish, I know there were quite a few complaints by others.

I take your word for it , but you certainly did stir the pot
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...iped-bass.html

I also do see your point but it seems to come from your perspective. ya have to weigh everything, not just the negatives.

this thread =

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

I take your word for it , but you certainly did stir the pot
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...iped-bass.html

I also do see your point but it seems to come from your perspective. ya have to weigh everything, not just the negatives.

this thread =

everyone should look at that link...

[clambelly]

Originally Posted by rizzo

Reasonable doubt - that is what I have. I've yet to see a reason to completely prove it true, so until then I don't believe it given all the things that have happened on this one. More facts pointing toward its false than true.

what reasons have you seen that prove it to be false?

[rizzo]

Originally Posted by clambelly

what reasons have you seen that prove it to be false?

The one thing that is definitely not proving it true is that the fish was not gutted and opened up. I can't understand why everyone is arguing that this isnt a big deal. Its the key to the whole story. I can't be any more clear about it. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Thats mine and I feel very strongly about it.

The certification and recertification of the scale, witnesses, pictures, ect. are all meaningless in that none can prove or verfiy the fish wasn't stuffed. How can you argue that?

[Nebe]

I read on SOL that it had a starfish in its gut

[bassballer]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I read on SOL that it had a starfish in its gut

[piemma]

I LOVE IT!!!!
Flame Wars!! keep going. Come on, keep it up!

[JohnR]

Oh Boy~~! This looks like fun.

Back to the topic please, thank you...

[Rappin Mikey]

Clammer, if you gotta problem with bugs, youz gotta problem with me. Now back to the nonsense.

[zacs]

Originally Posted by bassballer

i didn't see it on SOL, but i did see it here:

Angler Tells Story Of Catching Potential World-Record Bass - Greenwich, CT Patch

good article by the way. i am not a doubter. congrats to the new WR holder...

oh, and this dangles vs. tdf 'tit for tat' stuff is great! LOVE IT! you guys are hilarious