Get some sleep

[Sea Dangles]

So when Back Beach refers to his rock throwing buddy it's fine but when I make a similar referance it gets censored,no problem Tim.

Ross, I think you posted that as a shot at me but at the time I was thrilled to win the Red Top,especially with the generous prizes the fish enabled me to receive.But look at the date,it was three years ago. This is the firstyear I decided not to enter the OTW tournament and I did so because as Back Beach pointed out,I am done with that type of tournament. I am happy with my decision and feel like if I can influence others not to participate,whether by shaming them or setting an example, I have done the fishery a service.Thanks for bringing it up though,it's a nice memory and I hope there are people who decide follow my example.

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So when Back Beach refers to his rock throwing buddy it's fine but when I make a similar referance it gets censored,no problem Tim.

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, just my general observation on big tournaments is they do nothing for me personally any more due to the nonsense involved.

PLUS, once I found out you weren't entering this year I realized I had noone to bust and torment online over the cup standings, thus things have really lost their luster for me.

[bassballer]

Originally Posted by luds

Every fish that was caught:

• by a commercial angler during commerical season that was within their limit
• by an angler that was comfortable selling it illegally
• by an angler that wanted to eat it.
• by an angler that felt the need to show their catch to others, get a true weight because they didn't have a scale with them, or weigh it in publicly

I'm sure there are other reasons that I can't think of at the moment but I think more would have been kept anyway than released. Tough to know the exact % but there are also definitely alot of fish that would have gone back otherwise. This tournament is definitely a drop in the bucket as far as fish killing but I think it's definitely indicative of overall attitudes to c&r. It also has to contribute negatively to c&r since it's primarily a kill tournament that although has fairly low numbers of fish weighed in it an be far reaching as far as influence.

I'm not saying I didn't have a sh%tload of fun when we won it though!

Originally Posted by Back Beach

The whole killing of large breeders argument is BS. I don't feel the tournament elevates it at all. Those fish are coming home regardless in most cases. I'm ok with the tournament rules for the most part too.

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Exactly my point. Out of the 477 fish taken in this I would guess that pretty close to that number would have been taken home anyway. Most fisherman keep big bass. Just the way it is. Almost every weekend angler that gets into fish is coming home with a limit in the box. I dont think the tourney elevates those numbers that much in the grand scheme of things.

[Striper_Haven_03]

One things for sure...when you involve humans and put a "price" on any animals head, it will only lead to over harvesting and waste of that particular species. Did you think folks thought the Buffalo were near extinction in the 1800s when they used to shoot them for fun? I think by the time we realize the effects that tourneys like OTW Striper Cup have on the population of large fish it will be way too late. Im not a scientist but believe common sense rules...you take large fish out of the water it no doubt has an effect on the population and future successful spawning years.Not trying to "holy roll" but I let 99% of my fish swim because of this reason. Like Mark Twain said, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme".

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, just my general observation on big tournaments is they do nothing for me personally any more due to the nonsense involved.

PLUS, once I found out you weren't entering this year I realized I had noone to bust and torment online over the cup standings, thus things have really lost their luster for me.

That and they don't have a division for sunfish of course.

[bart]

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So when Back Beach refers to his rock throwing buddy it's fine but when I make a similar referance it gets censored,no problem Tim.

You made the reference - you are always making the reference.

You are generally taking a shot at someone or trying to stir the pot for your own amusement or satisfaction. I might be wrong but that is how it has seemed over the years up until the last time you got the boot here. And when it is isn't you taking shots at others it is the mean cruel moderators censoring your grand free speech. Frankly its old and it ends soon. Learn to play nice or play somewhere else.

[GregW]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So when Back Beach refers to his rock throwing buddy it's fine but when I make a similar referance it gets censored,no problem Tim.

Ross, I think you posted that as a shot at me but at the time I was thrilled to win the Red Top,especially with the generous prizes the fish enabled me to receive.But look at the date,it was three years ago. This is the firstyear I decided not to enter the OTW tournament and I did so because as Back Beach pointed out,I am done with that type of tournament. I am happy with my decision and feel like if I can influence others not to participate,whether by shaming them or setting an example, I have done the fishery a service.Thanks for bringing it up though,it's a nice memory and I hope there are people who decide follow my example.

Are you serious????

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by GregW

Are you serious????

No

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

No

Some guys take the internet way too seriously.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Ross, I think you posted that as a shot at me but at the time I was thrilled to win the Red Top,especially with the generous prizes the fish enabled me to receive.But look at the date,it was three years ago. This is the firstyear I decided not to enter the OTW tournament and I did so because as Back Beach pointed out,I am done with that type of tournament. I am happy with my decision and feel like if I can influence others not to participate,whether by shaming them or setting an example, I have done the fishery a service.Thanks for bringing it up though,it's a nice memory and I hope there are people who decide follow my example.

I just must have missed the repent and reconcile thread......