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09-22-2011, 09:02 AM
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Respect your elvers
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Location: franklin ma
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Just read the MV Derby committee disqualified two division leading participants due to their lack of having recreational fishing licenses...makes me wonder about the Striper Cup.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-22-2011, 09:31 AM
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#92
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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By the way, none of what I said is directed at Greg or TS. I know that Greg was contemplating throwing in with them over the off-season. It wasn't a case of him looking at the pack and deciding to help out one team over another. Just general principles.
Licensing? OTW is a coast-wide tournament. How could they ever check? The Derby, with one central weigh-in, can demand that a contestant show his/her license when weighing in a fish. OTW can't, and most weigh stations couldn't be bothered.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-22-2011, 09:46 AM
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#93
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
Licensing? OTW is a coast-wide tournament. How could they ever check? The Derby, with one central weigh-in, can demand that a contestant show his/her license when weighing in a fish. OTW can't, and most weigh stations couldn't be bothered.
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You simply provide proof of your license when you register for either tournament if your given state requires licensing. Not too difficult, IMO. |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-22-2011, 09:54 AM
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#94
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
You simply provide proof of your license when you register for either tournament if your given state requires licensing. Not too difficult, IMO.
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I assumed you had to show it for the Derby when you registered.
The problem with the Striper Cup is that a lot of people register early online or register at the winter shows. They may not have purchased the rec license by the time they sign up for it. |
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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09-22-2011, 10:00 AM
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Respect your elvers
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Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
I assumed you had to show it for the Derby when you registered.
The problem with the Striper Cup is that a lot of people register early online or register at the winter shows. They may not have purchased the rec license by the time they sign up for it.
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Then they should make people show a license when they weigh in a fish.
Nobody thinks less of the saltwater license b.s. than I do, but if I shell out 10 bucks for a license and another 45 for the striper cup registration, I demand the same from my fellow competitiors.  |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-22-2011, 10:09 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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I just ain't gonna join next year. I am tired of tournaments. In fact the last Tournament really enjoyed was the Schaefer Tournament. When the hell was that, 1971?
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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09-22-2011, 10:46 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
In fact the last Tournament really enjoyed was the Schaefer Tournament. When the hell was that, 1971?
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God you're old....  
Talk tomorrow. |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-22-2011, 11:05 AM
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#98
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Registered User
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HE THINKS HE,S god  |
ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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09-22-2011, 11:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
God you're old....
Talk tomorrow. |
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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09-22-2011, 11:46 AM
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#100
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
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I'm just glad BassDawg chimed in.
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
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09-22-2011, 01:10 PM
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#101
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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I only by OTW for the articles
I never look at the pictorials
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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09-22-2011, 01:12 PM
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#102
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
Just read the MV Derby committee disqualified two division leading participants due to their lack of having recreational fishing licenses...makes me wonder about the Striper Cup.
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Thought it was only one, the big albie, who was the other one? |
Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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09-22-2011, 01:40 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Originally Posted by JFigliuolo
He remembers when dirt was new...
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Where is all of this hostility coming from? Oakley, Clammer, now J. I think Mr Clammer is older than me and no one slams him. 
Just remember all you youngster, what I have forgotten, you haven't learned yet.
Bryan, I'll firm up tomorrow night with you during the day tomorrow. I am around all day. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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09-22-2011, 02:26 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
You simply provide proof of your license when you register for either tournament if your given state requires licensing. Not too difficult, IMO.
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What's to stop someone from making up a phony number if they register online? OTW isn't going to run a computer check even if they had the ability to do it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
Then they should make people show a license when they weigh in a fish.
Nobody thinks less of the saltwater license b.s. than I do, but if I shell out 10 bucks for a license and another 45 for the striper cup registration, I demand the same from my fellow competitiors. |
Sure, but the problem is getting the weigh stations to take the time. I entered two fish in 5 years. One was weighed in at Mike's. The other? I practically had to beg the guy to even get his digital scale out from under the counter. I got a "I hope you're gonna buy something if I drop everything and do this for you".  |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-22-2011, 03:01 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
Just read the MV Derby committee disqualified two division leading participants due to their lack of having recreational fishing licenses...makes me wonder about the Striper Cup.
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Must have happened on the 18th.... Meeting to DSQ was on the 19th, and the Daily Winners' page from the 18th looks pretty sparse.... I have no beef with their ruling. |
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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09-22-2011, 03:22 PM
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#106
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Please don't derail this thread with anyhing that makes sense.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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09-22-2011, 03:47 PM
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#107
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
By the way, none of what I said is directed at Greg or TS. I know that Greg was contemplating throwing in with them over the off-season. It wasn't a case of him looking at the pack and deciding to help out one team over another. Just general principles.
"If I'm a heavy hitter, I can sit on the sidelines, see how the standings shape up, and then offer my "services" to a team that wants to make a mid-tournament push on a team that's been together since the start.".
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right, clearly no inference there...... 
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Originally Posted by Mike P
Because the club tournament is run separately from the individual one, with separate standings.
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I'm pretty sure it's not run separately, last I checked..,weekly, monthly, Angler of the Year(individual standings)and Team were all the same fish...
the team standings and the option to fish for a team just make it more interesting and probably increase participation....I don't think that there are gobs of money and prizes showered on the team that wins to entice those "heavy hitters" to spend their season caluclating which team to join and selling their services in order to stick it to another team... 
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09-22-2011, 06:59 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
right, clearly no inference there......
I'm pretty sure it's not run separately, last I checked..,weekly, monthly, Angler of the Year(individual standings)and Team were all the same fish...
the team standings and the option to fish for a team just make it more interesting and probably increase participation....I don't think that there are gobs of money and prizes showered on the team that wins to entice those "heavy hitters" to spend their season caluclating which team to join and selling their services in order to stick it to another team... |
No just 10 grand |
Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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09-22-2011, 07:42 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
No just 10 grand
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we could check.... but I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with the team results or any of what I wrote... |
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09-22-2011, 08:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
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Good lord - you guys really need to fish more.
I'm sure Myerson joined Team Striper for the same reason everyone else did (and the reason I lie every year and say I did) - he was just trying to shut up Everin and keep him from chewing on his leg when he gets hammered.
Go fishing - it's actually fun.
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09-22-2011, 08:55 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
right, clearly no inference there......
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You think he's the only heavy hitter?  I thought I made it clear that TS was the only team he ever considered joining. |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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09-22-2011, 09:25 PM
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#112
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
You think he's the only heavy hitter? I thought I made it clear that TS was the only team he ever considered joining. |
he's the one that got your panties in a bunch about all of this...or is this general principles guided by wild specualtion?
still up ...by the way...
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Originally Posted by Mike P
Let's see if my little note on the Cup's Facebook wall stays up.
Michael Prevost With all due respect, if it's true that Greg Myerson was allowed to join Team Striper after not registering as a club member initially, your tournament has lost all credibility with a lot of anglers. The rule is pretty clear: Upon registration an angler must declare either a club affiliation or no affiliation. I see nothing that allows an "undeclared" angler to declare an affiliation with less than a month after the tournament.
The Striper Cup Hi Mike - Policy since year one has been to allow individuals to declare team affiliation at any point in the tournament, but only allow fish going forward to count toward team standings. We have had hundreds of anglers every year, on almost every team, who sign up first and then declare a team later in the season. Thanks for pointing out that we need to clarify that in our rules. Please contact bdean@onthewater.com if you have any questions or would like further explanation. Thanks
have you contacted them regarding all of your suggestions, opinions and ideas regarding improving the tournament?
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09-23-2011, 06:30 AM
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This thread is better every time I check in,I can't say much because it will be *edited* by the Bossman.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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09-23-2011, 07:01 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
This thread is better every time I check in,I can't say much because it will be *edited* by the Bossman.
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Just you Chris, just you. |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-23-2011, 07:23 AM
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I noticed that since the response prior to mine still has the name of the person I am not allowed to refer to. No problem Big Guy I'm used to it and don't want to get in the middle of whatever bunched your undergarment.
****edited**** by JohnR
reason-not sure
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09-23-2011, 07:35 AM
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#116
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Please don't derail this thread with anyhing that makes sense.
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You started it...  |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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09-23-2011, 07:49 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I noticed that since the response prior to mine still has the name of the person I am not allowed to refer to. No problem Big Guy I'm used to it and don't want to get in the middle of whatever bunched your undergarment.
****edited**** by JohnR
reason-not sure
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Ooops -- missed that one. But the WHY is not your concern.
Chris, you are starting to bunch my undergarments. Everyone has a problem, everyone is a cheat, and everyone is open for an attach, warranted or not. Oh, and of course you are overmoderated by the evil moderators.
While I prefer and encourage open speech and debate I don't have to put up with the constant drivel. If you don' like it, leave. |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-23-2011, 09:19 AM
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Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!
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[QUOTE= If you don' like it, leave.[/QUOTE]
I think I've seen you say this twice in this thread. Some people just can't take a hint. Reminds me of when i was a bartender and you tell a guy it's last call then they get all pissed off when you tell them it's time to go.
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09-23-2011, 10:20 AM
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Registered User
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Now
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Ooops -- missed that one. But the WHY is not your concern.
Chris, you are starting to bunch my undergarments. Everyone has a problem, everyone is a cheat, and everyone is open for an attach, warranted or not. Oh, and of course you are overmoderated by the evil moderators.
While I prefer and encourage open speech and debate I don't have to put up with the constant drivel. If you don' like it, leave.
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Now that you edited Saltheart I feel like I am being treated the same as everyone else.I do notice you still make stuff up about me again and that is too bad.Don't forget,you got on my case for bringing up**** but it wasn't me who brought him up.Just like last week when I got in trouble for mentioning **** throwing **** after Back Beach had made similar comments without issue.Now I know what is verboten and will happily comply.
The WHY you refer to is probably more common knowledge than you would think but I will respect your privacy in this matter.
Best thread in a while IMO.I like it,big hugs and tight lines. |
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09-23-2011, 11:14 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
The WHY you refer to is probably more common knowledge than you would think but I will respect your privacy in this matter.
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Thanks... |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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