Who, exactly, supports public unions?

[CTSurfrat]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

Exactly, I know there are some exceptions like high paid administrators, but our friend Jim would have everyone believe that these people all earn a pension close to what their salary is, and that simply is not the case. Also in many cases these people are paying large payments for health insurance in their retirement.

Is the pension system out of control and costly , sure but what is the cheaper alternative. If they instituted 401k plans, than the employer would no doubt end up with a matching contribution of some sort. This would be a taxpayer cost. Also I believe these teachers would also then have to pay into SSi, as would their employer, and they would then receive benefits , another taxpayer cost.

From my district retirees pay about 12k a year for health insurance. We have the option to contribute to a 403b, which is similar to 401k, but there is no matching.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by CTSurfrat

From my district retirees pay about 12k a year for health insurance. We have the option to contribute to a 403b, which is similar to 401k, but there is no matching.

"From my district retirees pay about 12k a year for health insurance"

Please sir, tell me the other piece of that, which is, how much do the taxpayers pay for an eaverage health plan for retirees? Are you saying that the retired teacher pays 100% of the cost of the plan? I seriously doubt that.

"We have the option to contribute to a 403b, which is similar to 401k, but there is no matching"

Oh. So you want the taxpayers to match your contribution into your 403b, ON TOP OF GIVING YOU A GUARANTEED PENSION?

What's next? A hope diamond on your birthday, and a Fabrege egg for Christmas? Is there any limit to what you feel entitked to confiscate from your neighbors? Is there any limit to what property taxes should be? Is it ever enough?

you folks are public servents. And when the public you serve, collectively has less money than they used to, the sad reality is that we have less to give you. But your unions refise to listen to that, and they grotesquely claim that they are fighting for the middle class. It's repugnant.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by :deadhorse:Jim:deadhorse: in CT

"you folks are public servents. And when the public you serve, collectively has less money than they used to, the sad reality is that we have less to give you. But your unions refise to listen to that, and they grotesquely claim that they are fighting for the middle class. It's repugnant.

Hey Jim, do you do your brother-in-law's taxes? You know the guy who retired from where was it now, Meridian, Ct. police, or what department was it, refresh my memory. I'll bet you do taxes on the side to make ends meet. Hey Jim, when people pay you cash do you claim it all? Ya, have to watch out for those actuaries. They are a devious bunch.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"From my district retirees pay about 12k a year for health insurance"

Please sir, tell me the other piece of that, which is, how much do the taxpayers pay for an eaverage health plan for retirees? Are you saying that the retired teacher pays 100% of the cost of the plan? I seriously doubt that.

"We have the option to contribute to a 403b, which is similar to 401k, but there is no matching"

Oh. So you want the taxpayers to match your contribution into your 403b, ON TOP OF GIVING YOU A GUARANTEED PENSION?

What's next? A hope diamond on your birthday, and a Fabrege egg for Christmas? Is there any limit to what you feel entitked to confiscate from your neighbors? Is there any limit to what property taxes should be? Is it ever enough?

you folks are public servents. And when the public you serve, collectively has less money than they used to, the sad reality is that we have less to give you. But your unions refise to listen to that, and they grotesquely claim that they are fighting for the middle class. It's repugnant.

Seriously if you think you have it that bad here, then why not take you money and move to South America?

[CTSurfrat]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"From my district retirees pay about 12k a year for health insurance"

Please sir, tell me the other piece of that, which is, how much do the taxpayers pay for an eaverage health plan for retirees? Are you saying that the retired teacher pays 100% of the cost of the plan? I seriously doubt that.

"We have the option to contribute to a 403b, which is similar to 401k, but there is no matching"

Oh. So you want the taxpayers to match your contribution into your 403b, ON TOP OF GIVING YOU A GUARANTEED PENSION?

Jim,

Slow down! This seems to be a very emotional topic for you. First of all, yes, retirees from my district pay 100% of their health insurance, the district pays NONE of it. Second, I never said I wanted taxpayers to match anything, I just stated the fact that we have 403b plans and that the town does not match at all. I never hinted, insinuated or stated that I wanted them to match the money I contribute.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by CTSurfrat

Jim,

Slow down! This seems to be a very emotional topic for you. First of all, yes, retirees from my district pay 100% of their health insurance, the district pays NONE of it. Second, I never said I wanted taxpayers to match anything, I just stated the fact that we have 403b plans and that the town does not match at all. I never hinted, insinuated or stated that I wanted them to match the money I contribute.

Ct Surfrat that takes a big bite out of your pension then, sorry to hear that.