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Old 11-27-2011, 05:16 PM   #1
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Your own article mentions no direct link, what, you run out of bold?

Besides, Jim and I deal with facts. The fact is the investigation didn't turn up evidence to warrant terror charges. All you have is speculation.
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Your own article mentions no direct link, what, you run out of bold?

Besides, Jim and I deal with facts. The fact is the investigation didn't turn up evidence to warrant terror charges. All you have is speculation.
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speculation............

Abdo’s motel room was stocked with gunpowder, firearms, and ammunition. Officials told ABC News that an article from al-Qaida’s “Inspire” magazine entitled “How to Build a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom” was also found in his room.

According to one official, the magazine mentioned al-Qaida cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, the same man investigators believed was the inspiration behind the 2009 Fort Hood massacre.


probably lots of people stock their hotel rooms with gunpowder, firearms, ammunition and al -Qaida magazines on their way to cause "tragedies"
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Abdo’s motel room was stocked with gunpowder, firearms, and ammunition. Officials told ABC News that an article from al-Qaida’s “Inspire” magazine entitled “How to Build a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom” was also found in his room.

According to one official, the magazine mentioned al-Qaida cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, the same man investigators believed was the inspiration behind the 2009 Fort Hood massacre.


probably lots of people stock their hotel rooms with gunpowder, firearms, ammunition and al -Qaida magazines on their way to cause "tragedies"
I would think that anyone considering such an action would surround themselves with material to support their objective. If there was an Islamic edition of the Anarchist Cookbook I'm sure that would have been there as well.

Face it, the guy was nuts. To call it terrorism you have to show deeper motive and/or affiliation which investigators who are a lot closer to this case than you or I haven't found.

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Face it, the guy was nuts. To call it terrorism you have to show deeper motive and/or affiliation which investigators who are a lot closer to this case than you or I haven't found.

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yup...probably just an isolated incident...who will you be defending next week....Sandusky?...also rhetorical...I'm sure the answer is yes

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Alleged Plot Against U.S. Military Base In Seattle Is Eighth in Two Years

June 24, 2011

In the latest planned assault on a U.S. military installation – at least the eighth such conspiracy in the past two years -- two Islamic converts have been arrested for allegedly plotting a Fort Hood-style attack on a Seattle center for new military recruits.

The alleged ringleader of the plot, 33-year-old Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif, a convicted felon once known as Joseph Davis, has posted a number of videos on-line attacking the U.S. military, as well as comments praising al Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki, who has been linked to accused Ft. Hood shooter Nidal Hasan. According to the FBI, Abdul-Latif and accused coconspirator Walli Mujahidh, formerly Frederick Domingue, sought to determine "how they could kill the most military personnel and escape or die as martyrs" during a planned July 5 assault on the Military Entrance Processing Station.

The men discussed using "fragmentation grenades" in the facility's cafeteria as a way of maximizing casualties, say authorities, and were arrested after they allegedly purchased automatic weapons from an informant for the planned attack.

There have been at least eight attacks or alleged plots against military installations since 2009, including the November 2009 Fort Hood massacre, in which 13 people died at the Texas Army base. Palestinian-American Army Major Nidal Hasan, who had exchanged emails about jihad with Anwar al-Awlaki, is currently awaiting trial on multiple counts of murder and attempted murder. Just this week, Marine Reservist Yonathan Melaku was charged with shooting at military sites, including the Pentagon, after he was arrested in Arlington National Cemetery with a backpack full of inert ammonium nitrate. Melaku allegedly videotaped himself shouting "Allahu Akbar" while shooting at the Marine Corps Museum in Quantico and had a list of bomb-making materials in his home.

The FBI say Abdul-Latif hoped the attack on the Seattle processing center would inspire other Muslims to carry out similar assaults on enlistment centers. According to the criminal complaint filed Thursday, Mujahidh told FBI agents that he wanted to die a martyr, and said the purpose of the attack was to kill U.S. military personnel so they could not be deployed to Islamic lands.

Abdul-Latif referred admiringly to the 2009 Fort Hood massacre, according to a confidential informant who is quoted in the criminal complaint. Abdul-Latif allegedly said that "if one person could kill so many people, three attackers could kill many more" and that if he was killed in his own attack, his son would be proud he had fought the "non-believers."

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Internal Army reports indicate officers within the Army had discussed what they characterized as Hasan's tendencies toward radical Islam since 2005. Additionally, investigations before and after the shooting discovered e-mail communications between Hasan and Yemen-based cleric Anwar al-Awlaki (ehhh...probably gets lots of emails from lots of people), who quickly declared Hasan a hero, as "fighting against the U.S. army is an Islamic duty".

The U.S. later classified Anwar al-Awlaki as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist, and the UN considered Awlaki to be associated with al-Qaeda (must be pretty bad);

Hasan has expressed admiration for the teachings of Anwar al-Awlaki, imam at the Dar al-Hijrah mosque between 2000 and 2002.[70] As Al-Awlaki was under surveillance, Hasan was investigated by the FBI after intelligence agencies intercepted 18 emails between them between December 2008 and June 2009. In one, Hasan wrote: "I can't wait to join you" in the afterlife.(that's sweet)

Hasan also asked al-Awlaki when jihad is appropriate, and whether it is permissible if innocents are killed in a suicide attack. (did he really have to ask?)



Though Hasan had frequented jihadist web sites promoting radical Islamic views, they said no e-mail communications with outside facilitators or known terrorists were found(except discovered e-mail communications between Hasan and Yemen-based cleric "Specially Designated Global Terrorist" ) . Investigators were evaluating reports that, in 2001, Hasan had attended a mosque in Virginia once attended by two of the 9/11 hijackers and headed by Anwar al-Awlaki (huh...that's a conicidence), who had been accused of aiding the 9/11 plot. Investigators were looking at potential inspiration, to determine if al-Awlaki's teachings could have radicalized Hasan. (no way...c'mon)

No motive for the shootings was offered, but they believed Hasan had authored an Internet posting that appeared to support suicide bombings.(doesn't everyone do this)

He also handed out copies of the Qur'an, along with his business cards which listed a Maryland phone number and read "Behavioral Heatlh [sic] – Mental Health – Life Skills | Nidal Hasan, MD, MPH | SoA(SWT) | Psychiatrist".[76][77] According to investigators, the acronym "SoA" is commonly used on jihadist websites as an acronym for "Soldier of Allah" (that's a nice touch)

Shouting "Allahu Akhbar" as he killed the unarmed. (pretty common I guess)

A Rasmussen national survey found that 65% of Americans favored the death penalty in Hasan's case, and that 60% want the case investigated as an act of terrorism.

WOW...60% Spence...that's like most all Americans in Spence world

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