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Old 12-08-2011, 02:21 AM   #1
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For accurate accountability, the charter/ headboat fleet should be a separate designation. See adjective one, could make the argument that they are more commercial fishing than the guys selling fish out of their personal boats.
What you are forgetting is the charter/headboat fleet is not "fishing". Their clients are fishing. No different than any other guy sitting on the shore or in his own or buddies boat. They just rent a ride and hire a guide.

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Old 12-08-2011, 08:28 AM   #2
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What you are forgetting is the charter/headboat fleet is not "fishing". Their clients are fishing. No different than any other guy sitting on the shore or in his own or buddies boat. They just rent a ride and hire a guide.

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The captain is engaged in an act of fishing commerce, we are talking semantics here. I work part time on a charter boat. The goal all the time is to get the maximum we can keep . After all that is what we are getting " paid " to do. If I am rec fishing it's never about the maximum to take home, I hardly ever keep fish. So do most of the people I know that fish a bit. A couple a year suffice.

My point is to have 3 designations for Bass pie.

1- True commercial.
2- Charter/ headboat fishing.
3- Recreational.

1 and 2 are always going after max take, for money.
3 is not.

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Old 12-08-2011, 12:06 PM   #3
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The captain is engaged in an act of fishing commerce, we are talking semantics here. I work part time on a charter boat. The goal all the time is to get the maximum we can keep . After all that is what we are getting " paid " to do. If I am rec fishing it's never about the maximum to take home, I hardly ever keep fish. So do most of the people I know that fish a bit. A couple a year suffice.

My point is to have 3 designations for Bass pie.

1- True commercial.
2- Charter/ headboat fishing.
3- Recreational.

1 and 2 are always going after max take, for money.
3 is not.
The Captain will only kill as many fish as the charter wants to kill (up to the limit). Some folks don't kill any, some only kill one or two, some kill the max. Its just like guys fishing from private boats or from shore.

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Old 12-08-2011, 11:39 AM   #4
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What you are forgetting is the charter/headboat fleet is not "fishing". Their clients are fishing. No different than any other guy sitting on the shore or in his own or buddies boat. They just rent a ride and hire a guide.

Jon
When you hire a charter, you don't need your own fishing license. So the government has already decided that charter boats are in a distinct category of their own. Same goes for when they are fishing for BFT, separate designation from recreation fishermen.

You see, charters are on the water for one reason... commercial intent. They exchange a service for money. Now, I'm not saying that there is anything at all wrong with that. However, the industry as a whole should be held accountable for the total amount of fish they take. Enough grouping charter/head boats and *true* recreational fishermen into the same regulatory category for striped bass.

If you want to nitpick semantics, why was the captain that caught the bluefin tuna in their trawler nets the one under all the scrutiny? He wasn't the one tending the nets, the guys out on the deck were.
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