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[zimmy]

40% ss and medicare, 20% defense, 6% interest on debt. That leaves 1/3 of the budget is everything else. Adding 30 million people to the rolls... many of those people already cost huge amounts of money at the ER and in the overall cost of health care. Having uninsured is not cheap. Currently 83 million people are covered by gov. health insurance. 30 million more won't be directly added. Many will be able to get private insurance due to the changes the bill institutes. This is from the cbo, not a liberal organization: 143 billion decrease in the budget deficit over a decade. Some of that is from tax rates going to Clinton levels. I know, it is unfair in your opinion. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc...dReconProp.pdf

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I know, it is unfair in your opinion.

What I consider fair or unfair doesn't matter.
What does matter is what kind of country will be left to
my kids and Grandkids.
If this administration continues on it's Socialistic path and spending,
there won't be anything left, certainly not the American Dream.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by justplugit

What I consider fair or unfair doesn't matter.
What does matter is what kind of country will be left to
my kids and Grandkids.
If this administration continues on it's Socialistic path and spending,
there won't be anything left, certainly not the American Dream.

Pretty scary stuff.

Oh yeah, you might want to read what Karl posted and digest it if you are concerned about the reality of the situation.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Oh yeah, you might want to read what Karl posted and digest it if you are concerned about the reality of the situation.

Thanks for your Lib elietist thinking that I need to read more,
but having lived through 18 administrations, I'll go by the reality of my own experiences.

Oh, and just to make it "fair"" I'll give you the last word.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Thanks for your Lib elietist thinking that I need to read more,
but having lived through 18 administrations, I'll go by the reality of my own experiences.

Oh, and just to make it "fair"" I'll give you the last word.

It isn't elitist. I was referring to your own statement that you didn't have time to read and digest what Karl posted. It is specific data that shows what the actuality of those 18 administrations were as opposed to a perception. My problem is that many people are angry based on perception as opposed to the actuality of situations. At least be angry based on facts rather than perception.

[justplugit]

I Understand your reasoning Zimmy but that was supposed
to be a joke between Karl and I.
Hope he laughed.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I Understand your reasoning Zimmy but that was supposed
to be a joke between Karl and I.
Hope he laughed.

Sorry I didn't catch that. That stuff happens in this format.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by zimmy

It is specific data that shows what the actuality of those 18 administrations were as opposed to a perception. My problem is that many people are angry based on perception as opposed to the actuality of situations. At least be angry based on facts rather than perception.

can you offer just a little more?...that barely qualifies as "generalized talking points"

what are "people" angry about?
what is their perception or misperception?
what is the reality and actuality based on facts?


before you answer that you should go back and read Detbuch's last post...it was pretty insightful

I've noticed that people that lean "socialistic" like to hold up their hands, shrug their shoulders and say " what socialism???...I have no idea what you are talking about"...I'm never sure if this is just a smug reply...or by some chance....they really don't know....