I'd like to have a Senator that walks the talk

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Prolly not, but a bigger push on Agenda 21 would be a possibility.

Doubt it, Obama will be too busy trying to destroy the Second Amendment...

NRA official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term - Washington Times

-spence

[MotoXcowboy]

Originally Posted by spence

Doubt it, Obama will be too busy trying to destroy the Second Amendment...

NRA official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term - Washington Times

-spence

That has been his plan for the last year. He was heard telling the Brady family that last year. Hinted at increasing the price of shells to the point that you cannot buy them.

[spence]

Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy

That has been his plan for the last year. He was heard telling the Brady family that last year. Hinted at increasing the price of shells to the point that you cannot buy them.

It's funny, the NRA just makes stuff up and the gun crowd goes nuts.

Sorry to break it this way, but your assertion is bogus.

-spence

[MotoXcowboy]

Originally Posted by spence

It's funny, the NRA just makes stuff up and the gun crowd goes nuts.

Sorry to break it this way, but your assertion is bogus.

-spence

A box of 20 Win. 270 bullets before Obama's ammo tax, 6.00 now after the tax laws, 17.00

thats enough said in my mind to prove he doesnt like gun owners.

[spence]

Originally Posted by MotoXcowboy

A box of 20 Win. 270 bullets before Obama's ammo tax, 6.00 now after the tax laws, 17.00

thats enough said in my mind to prove he doesnt like gun owners.

What is Obama's ammo tax?

I think you're confused.
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[likwid]

Originally Posted by spence

Doubt it, Obama will be too busy trying to destroy the Second Amendment...

NRA official: Obama wants to outlaw guns in 2nd term - Washington Times

-spence

I wonder how much Remington/Sturm Ruger/etc paid LaPierre to say that.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by likwid

I wonder how much Remington/Sturm Ruger/etc paid LaPierre to say that.

Why would they waste the money, if what you claim, with zero to back it up, is true???
Maybe the "Fast and Furious" program can be used to show that he wants more guns on the streets.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by buckman

Maybe the "Fast and Furious" program can be used to show that he wants more guns on the streets.

LOL Buck,tears in my eyes.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by buckman

Why would they waste the money, if what you claim, with zero to back it up, is true???

Do you know where the NRA gets most of its lobbying money?

Here's a hint.
Not its members.

I know, its hard to stomach, I know you're feeling sick and you want to scream "LEAVE THE NRA ALONE!" but its ok, just accept the fact that they're just another lobbying group with more interest in itself and big corp than you.

It'll be OK, I promise.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by likwid

Do you know where the NRA gets most of its lobbying money?

Here's a hint.
Not its members.

I know, its hard to stomach, I know you're feeling sick and you want to scream "LEAVE THE NRA ALONE!" but its ok, just accept the fact that they're just another lobbying group with more interest in itself and big corp than you.

It'll be OK, I promise.

4.3 million members...I'm not one of them. Back up what you spew!

[likwid]

Originally Posted by buckman

4.3 million members...I'm not one of them. Back up what you spew!

Wayne LaPierre Falsely Claims "All" The NRA's Money Comes From Small Donors | Media Matters for America
Yawn.

Since 2005, corporations--gun related and other--have contributed between $19.8 million and $52.6 million to the NRA as detailed in its Ring of Freedom corporate giving program. In a promotional brochure for the program, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre promises that the "National Rifle Association's newly expanded Corporate Partners Program is an opportunity for corporations to partner with the NRA....This program is geared toward your company's corporate interests."

"Corporate Partner Program" is a nice clean way of saying "We take lobbying money"

Isn't it so nice sounding?

You think corporations sponsor groups like the NRA out of the goodness of their heart?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by likwid

Wayne LaPierre Falsely Claims "All" The NRA's Money Comes From Small Donors | Media Matters for America
Yawn.

Since 2005, corporations--gun related and other--have contributed between $19.8 million and $52.6 million to the NRA as detailed in its Ring of Freedom corporate giving program. In a promotional brochure for the program, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre promises that the "National Rifle Association's newly expanded Corporate Partners Program is an opportunity for corporations to partner with the NRA....This program is geared toward your company's corporate interests."

"Corporate Partner Program" is a nice clean way of saying "We take lobbying money"

Isn't it so nice sounding?

You think corporations sponsor groups like the NRA out of the goodness of their heart?

No, corporations protect their interests..it just so happens it's also the 2nd Amendment, and they do it without Fed funding.

Would you like to compare with say another large non-profit.....say Planned Parenthood?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

Wayne LaPierre Falsely Claims "All" The NRA's Money Comes From Small Donors | Media Matters for America
Yawn.

Since 2005, corporations--gun related and other--have contributed between $19.8 million and $52.6 million to the NRA as detailed in its Ring of Freedom corporate giving program. In a promotional brochure for the program, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre promises that the "National Rifle Association's newly expanded Corporate Partners Program is an opportunity for corporations to partner with the NRA....This program is geared toward your company's corporate interests."

"Corporate Partner Program" is a nice clean way of saying "We take lobbying money"

Isn't it so nice sounding?

You think corporations sponsor groups like the NRA out of the goodness of their heart?

This is nonsense. Every major nonprofit and special interest organization has corporate sponsors. So what if companies like Remmington, Ruger and Kahr donate to the NRA? It's a special interest organization that makes steps to protect and fight for our Second Amendment Rights. And it's a damn good thing considering that breadth of lies and misinformation that is thrown around by the anti-gun crowd.

Every organization will have corporate sponsors and it's these sponsorships that are often the only way the organizations continue to exist. The key is to not be a lazy, complacent supporter of the organization and to make sure that the corporate money does not steer the ideals away from your own.

If a cancer research foundation were sponsored by a company that creates a cancer testing solution, should people stop supporting that foundation because it's now tainted by corporate money?


Instead of an accusation that the NRA is essentially a puppet organization for manufacturers, how about a few examples of how those corporate sponsorships of steered the NRA in a direction that is not inline with it's members' ideals? (As a note, I'm not a member)