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02-05-2012, 11:47 AM
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Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Good morning... almost afternoon Gents... I've got something special here this morning...( atleast I think it is)
yesterday.. as i dropped off my Ice fishing partner.. he invited me to see his basement he was remodeling... hidden on top of the rafters was a stash of plugs.... there were some Atoms ( 40's) and gibbs bottle plugs and trollers... but what caught my eye was this fella ( which he gave me...) it looks like a Nike.. but the external rigging throws me.. I dont know enough about the history to know for sure.. but here it is... it weighs 3.20 ounces... it is 6 1/2" long the head is 1 1/2"... the middle is 1 5/8".. the tail is 3/4.... the head of the plug is gaurded with a heavy metal plate held on by two screws, it terminates at the same level as the rigging.. it appears to be plated or possibly stainless.. regardless.. it is quality and very heavy.. the head above the plate is slightly cupped... the eyes are an intergal part of the plug, with wood removved around them to make them stand out, I originaly thought they were glass.. but on close inspection... they are definatly part of the plug... on the rigging it has a "U" shaped section that sits in a recees inthe tail.... the rigging is secured tow the body on either side of the hook and protrudes out through a hole drilled into the mouth a wher it is terminated with a split ring..anybody got a positive ID....
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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02-05-2012, 11:53 AM
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#32
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Location: norwood pa
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02-05-2012, 12:03 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin
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Happy 2012!
Hey guy's, sounds like everyone is getting ready, and getting shop's sorted out, I'm in the same boat. I've started a little later this year due to a little side project. A co-worker had a butchered 1955 Les Paul Jr that needed some love. A previous owner had cut the center portion out and replaced it with Luan plywood to hide previous hacking. I cut that out, replaced it with Mahogany, epoxied it in place, added binding, filled, painted with 1955 Lincoln turquoise and clear coated the entire piece. I'd never have touched it with normal wear, but she was done.
Woody, I do know a few things about gliders, and you are right, is is all about shape, width and balance. A couple things I've found that work are, a longer shape balances much better with weight added both to the front and rear of the bait. Do that balancing act with a level fall and a sink rate of around 1 foot per second and you've got a winner. With a shorter, taller profile I've found that a centered ballast with the same sink rate works very well. With both shapes however, wider is better like 7/8 to 1" for a 6 to 10" profile. Maple is my choice of wood for gliders, it seems to work out best without a ton of weight needed to dance. Remember that when you do your sink rate test to have hooks on and guesstimate topcoat weight. You can change hook size after completion to fine tune. Line tie attachment will also come into play, generally keep it centered. Here are a couple examples from last year.
Douglas
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02-05-2012, 12:16 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Massachusetts
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That's quite the find Rockfish9!
I over slept this am.  |
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02-05-2012, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Originally Posted by Chunkah
That's quite the find Rockfish9!
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I feel like it is....I wss up at 2 AM the day before... and went to bed late... I was in no hurry to get out of bed this morning... |
A good run is better than a bad stand!
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02-05-2012, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Hard aground
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Originally Posted by the greek
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WoW, you never cease to amaze. Very nice  |
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02-05-2012, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: carver,
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Greek: huge fan of your work. Awesome plugs.
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02-05-2012, 04:47 PM
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
Good morning... almost afternoon Gents... I've got something special here this morning...( atleast I think it is)
yesterday.. as i dropped off my Ice fishing partner.. he invited me to see his basement he was remodeling... hidden on top of the rafters was a stash of plugs.... there were some Atoms ( 40's) and gibbs bottle plugs and trollers... but what caught my eye was this fella ( which he gave me...) it looks like a Nike.. but the external rigging throws me.. I dont know enough about the history to know for sure.. but here it is... it weighs 3.20 ounces... it is 6 1/2" long the head is 1 1/2"... the middle is 1 5/8".. the tail is 3/4.... the head of the plug is gaurded with a heavy metal plate held on by two screws, it terminates at the same level as the rigging.. it appears to be plated or possibly stainless.. regardless.. it is quality and very heavy.. the head above the plate is slightly cupped... the eyes are an intergal part of the plug, with wood removved around them to make them stand out, I originaly thought they were glass.. but on close inspection... they are definatly part of the plug... on the rigging it has a "U" shaped section that sits in a recees inthe tail.... the rigging is secured tow the body on either side of the hook and protrudes out through a hole drilled into the mouth a wher it is terminated with a split ring..anybody got a positive ID....
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it's was made by P & K an called a lippy saltwater...mid 40's was about it's birth date...same family as the walkie- talkie. |
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02-05-2012, 06:07 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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I'm pretty sure I have seen some of them P & K's at VB's house.
Beauties you guys got there Greek n Rowhunter
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-05-2012, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buxton, Maine
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Yup that's what they are. Got a few of them. Duplicatin that metal center strip is gonna be quite the chore.
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02-06-2012, 07:01 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Originally Posted by stripermaineiac
Yup that's what they are. Got a few of them. Duplicatin that metal center strip is gonna be quite the chore.
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I work in a machine shop... 
thanks Gents for the ID... |
A good run is better than a bad stand!
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02-06-2012, 10:04 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
I work in a machine shop.
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you poor man
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-06-2012, 12:13 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Originally Posted by ProfessorM
you poor man
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yea.. I have to put up with a bunch of candy *** machinists that are cold if it is 70.... hot if it is 71... cry like little girls if they dont have their way.... and complain about everything in between ...most of them should have retired years ago... they still have the first dime they ever made...and most of them own more property than the Catholic church... |
A good run is better than a bad stand!
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02-07-2012, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
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Looks like everyone is of to a good start! Ted your stuff looks great!! With what I am seeing I guess I'll have to step it up a bunch.
Paul, please send me some pic's of the fly vice to show to Bobby Pop.
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 "The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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02-07-2012, 09:59 AM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
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I'll be in the garage building almost every day this week ,if anyone wants to stop by Just shoot me a PM here or CL
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02-07-2012, 11:17 AM
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Certified Mass-hole
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Jackson, NJ but born and raised in Massachusetts.
Posts: 1,223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
yea.. I have to put up with a bunch of candy *** machinists that are cold if it is 70.... hot if it is 71... cry like little girls if they dont have their way.... and complain about everything in between ...most of them should have retired years ago... they still have the first dime they ever made...and most of them own more property than the Catholic church...
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And I'll bet they are damn good machinists. |
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02-12-2012, 08:16 AM
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#47
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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02-12-2012, 08:24 AM
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#48
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I built a simple plug rack to hang my vintage beater examples that I use in my shop. Just something to hang them neatly on the wall in my shop!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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02-12-2012, 08:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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I have a wire over my desk in the "shop" where I hang my "for example plugs". Some classics , some retired with honor. Hall of Fame on a string..
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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02-12-2012, 09:09 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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Couple new big darters .... one cherry and one birch
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02-12-2012, 09:21 AM
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#51
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CT
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Nice darters Chris.
I didn't get much done this week, going to repaint a bunch of eelys and some other stuff I have in primer this morning. Glad to see this thread is back
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02-12-2012, 09:22 AM
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#52
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
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Shop cleaned up so now I can see the bench Dupe all set up and working well. Was given a Clemens lathe, all set up but needs new motor. Going to go with this new chubby body for Pikie this spring. |
"The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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02-12-2012, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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Sarge... it that a metal or wood lathe that you just picked up?
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Blond Terror
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02-12-2012, 09:28 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blondterror
Sarge... it that a metal or wood lathe that you just picked up?
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Chris, that is a Clemens rod lathe. |
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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02-12-2012, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blondterror
Sarge... it that a metal or wood lathe that you just picked up?
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Rod lathe!
Sold the same one about 6 years ago and kicked myself in the ass for getting rid of it. Nice to have one again. |
"The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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02-12-2012, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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Nice... so I can have you build me a 11' rod to go with the new ZB reel I will get this spring ... will need it for the June Cutty trip
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Blond Terror
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02-12-2012, 09:36 AM
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#57
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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I just started doing hydro orientation... i was surprised what I saw with the first 5-6 plugs i have used it for... definitely will continue doing it... darters... metal lips
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Blond Terror
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02-12-2012, 09:38 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blondterror
Nice... so I can have you build me a 11' rod to go with the new ZB reel I will get this spring ... will need it for the June Cutty trip
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Century 1327, cut 4" from butt, w/ my KW-LC-to single foot layout |
"The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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02-12-2012, 09:42 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blondterror
I just started doing hydro orientation... i was surprised what I saw with the first 5-6 plugs i have used it for... definitely will continue doing it... darters... metal lips
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Darters, unweighted plugs, yeah...but I'm with Larry on the rest http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...tml#post920084 |
"The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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02-12-2012, 09:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
I have a wire over my desk in the "shop" where I hang my "for example plugs". Some classics , some retired with honor. Hall of Fame on a string..
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Do you write on the retired with honor plugs... hard to remember the stories behind each great plug and what they caught... |
Blond Terror
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