I'd like to have a Senator that walks the talk

[buckman]

Originally Posted by likwid

Wayne LaPierre Falsely Claims "All" The NRA's Money Comes From Small Donors | Media Matters for America
Yawn.

Since 2005, corporations--gun related and other--have contributed between $19.8 million and $52.6 million to the NRA as detailed in its Ring of Freedom corporate giving program. In a promotional brochure for the program, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre promises that the "National Rifle Association's newly expanded Corporate Partners Program is an opportunity for corporations to partner with the NRA....This program is geared toward your company's corporate interests."

"Corporate Partner Program" is a nice clean way of saying "We take lobbying money"

Isn't it so nice sounding?

You think corporations sponsor groups like the NRA out of the goodness of their heart?

No, corporations protect their interests..it just so happens it's also the 2nd Amendment, and they do it without Fed funding.

Would you like to compare with say another large non-profit.....say Planned Parenthood?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by buckman

No, corporations protect their interests..it just so happens it's also the 2nd Amendment, and they do it without Fed funding.

Would you like to compare with say another large non-profit.....say Planned Parenthood?

Big difference between people's health and 2a.

But I'm sure you're anti-abortion and would rather see women knowing their role right?

But lets get back to the real point here.

LaPierre is a lying sack of crap.
Truth.

Lets get beyond the "but but but X, but but but X" for once and actually defend the tool if you're going to argue.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

Big difference between people's health and 2a.

How so exactly? How is a group that subsidizes health care all that different from a group that fights for our rights to protect ourselves and be safe from harm?

But I'm sure you're anti-abortion and would rather see women knowing their role right?

But lets get back to the real point here.

LaPierre is a lying sack of crap.
Truth.

Lets get beyond the "but but but X, but but but X" for once and actually defend the tool if you're going to argue.

It is possible to defend an organization while not agreeing with the statements of the person at the top rung. Most every politician and business executive is a lying sack of crap.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

How so exactly? How is a group that subsidizes health care all that different from a group that fights for our rights to protect ourselves and be safe from harm?

One only cares about guns (its the national RIFLE association, not the people's rights association), the other actually cares about people.

It is possible to defend an organization while not agreeing with the statements of the person at the top rung. Most every politician and business executive is a lying sack of crap.

It is also possible to defend an organization/person without crying about other organizations or people. I know, crazy.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

One only cares about guns (its the national RIFLE association, not the people's rights association), the other actually cares about people.

Well, since Planned Parenthood's name is with regards to family planning, I guess they should stop cancer screenings, breast exams and STD testing. It's called Planned PARENTHOOD, not Women's Health Clinic.

I'd also argue that the NRA, while having "Rifle" in the name, cares about more than just guns.

It is also possible to defend an organization/person without crying about other organizations or people. I know, crazy.

I'm not the one crying about other organizations, but if you're going to try and leverage what one organization does to put down another, then it's on the table.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by likwid

But I'm sure you're anti-abortion and would rather see women knowing their role right?

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Wrong again....