Just curious, would any of you vote for Santorum

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Romney/Rubio? Would the conservs. vote for 2 Mormans?

I was suprised to hear he didn't know when his family left Cuba.

Rubio calls himself a Catholic, i've heard folks doubt that, never heard he was a Mormon. I'd vote for a voo-doo practicioner if they believed in fiscal responsibility, strong national defense, and that all life is sacred..

I'm guessing Rubio embellished his family history for dramatic effect. It didn't hurt Hilary when she lied about snipers shooting at her, so why should it hurt Rubio if he got a date wrong?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Rubio calls himself a Catholic, i've heard folks doubt that, never heard he was a Mormon. I'd vote for a voo-doo practicioner if they believed in fiscal responsibility, strong national defense, and that all life is sacred..

I'm guessing Rubio embellished his family history for dramatic effect. It didn't hurt Hilary when she lied about snipers shooting at her, so why should it hurt Rubio if he got a date wrong?

But when Obama stated he was Christian a huge % of the teabaggers doubted him. To this day the Repub. leaderships says garbage like "if he says he's a Christian I have no reason to not believe him"

[spence]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But when Obama stated he was Christian a huge % of the teabaggers doubted him.

His middle name is Hussein.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

His middle name is Hussein.

-spence

hold on now, may be a little more than that....
Given that Rev wrights comments from O's church pulpit where of a radical madman spewing anti-american, anti-white filth and sounding VERY un-christian-like may have had a tiny impact on the public's perception of O's religion, dont ya think?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

hold on now, may be a little more than that....
Given that Rev wrights comments from O's church pulpit where of a radical madman spewing anti-american, anti-white filth and sounding VERY un-christian-like may have had a tiny impact on the public's perception of O's religion, dont ya think?

No, RIJIMMY, to Spence there isn't more than that. If Obama claims to be Christian, then in Spenceworld, conservatives cannot possibly have a valid reason to refute Obama's claim. If we question Obama at all, it must be because we are racists and bigots and hatemongers. For Spence, there can never, ever, be any other plausible explanation. Never. According to Spence, any dissent from Obama is necessarily rooted in ignorance, hate, or both.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, RIJIMMY, to Spence there isn't more than that. If Obama claims to be Christian, then in Spenceworld, conservatives cannot possibly have a valid reason to refute Obama's claim. If we question Obama at all, it must be because we are racists and bigots and hatemongers. For Spence, there can never, ever, be any other plausible explanation. Never. According to Spence, any dissent from Obama is necessarily rooted in ignorance, hate, or both.

Interesting, so Obama is baptized a Christian and has taken Jesus as his savior...yet it's up to Obama to prove he really is a Christian?

That's not how I thought the religion worked.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But when Obama stated he was Christian a huge % of the teabaggers doubted him. To this day the Repub. leaderships says garbage like "if he says he's a Christian I have no reason to not believe him"

Paul, there is a huge difference, unless I am missing something...

Rubio claims to be Catholic. I have no direct knowledge of anything Rubio has done to refute his claim.

Obama claims to be Christian. I do, however, have tons of evidence to refute his claim, and here it is. For 20 years, Obama listened to Rev Wright preach NOT Christianity, but something called Black Liberation Theology. Where Christianity is based on love and charity, BLT is based on hate, lies, and racism (for example, suggesting that the US Govt invented AIDS to eradicate blacks). Obama sat in Wright's church for 20 years, Obama called Wright his spiritual advisor, Wright married the Obamas and baptized both of Obama's girls. That's a very close, intimate relationship. Obama stuck by Wright until it was politically necessary to throw him under the bus. All facts.

Obama can claim to be Christian. I can claim to look like Brad Pitt, but alas, my claiming such does not make it so.

If there is compelling evidence that Rubio isn't Catholic, I'm willing to listen...

Spence, of course, suggests that conservatives doubt Obama's Christianity because his middle name is Hussein. As usual, Spence ignores the facts that make Obama look awful, and instead he demonizes the opposition by calling us bigots. I don't care what Obama's middle name is. If Obama's spiritual advisor, for his entire adult life, was a guy who peddles in hate, don't tell me you're a Christian unless you completely renounce everything you heard for the last 20 years, and Obama hasn't done that.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Obama sat in Wright's church for 20 years, Obama called Wright his spiritual advisor, Wright married the Obamas and baptized both of Obama's girls.

must be Muslim.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

must be Muslim.

Zimmy, I wish he were a Muslim, that would be a lot less insane than subscribing to Black Liberation Theology. Inexplicable. Well, it's inexplicable to people who think rationally about such things. Imagine calling a man your spiritual advisor, who claims thatthe US Govt invented the AIDS virus to eradicate blacks from the planet. But for a guy (Obama) who also supported infanticide, and palled around with Bill Ayers, nothing is out of reach I guess.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, of course, suggests that conservatives doubt Obama's Christianity because his middle name is Hussein. As usual, Spence ignores the facts that make Obama look awful, and instead he demonizes the opposition by calling us bigots. I don't care what Obama's middle name is. If Obama's spiritual advisor, for his entire adult life, was a guy who peddles in hate, don't tell me you're a Christian unless you completely renounce everything you heard for the last 20 years, and Obama hasn't done that.

Actually you're wrong again. Obama did very publicly denounce the fringe things that Rev. Wright has said...

I've read much of what Wright has preached and as I've written in previous threads much of the criticism is either lacking context or doesn't get the tenor of some black churches that which can admittedly sound angry at times. I'll tell you this, Rev. Wright can keep your attention. Yes, there are comments like the AIDS claim which is widely believed in black communities.

Obama has denounced this.

He did stand behind Wright as a spiritual adviser as Obama has said he never personally heard the worst inflammatory remarks. I do find it interesting that after 20 years of sermons all his critics could come up with were a handful of gotchya's.

To argue that Wright's church wasn't Christian is absurd and ignorant. It's a fixture of south Chicago and works to help the poor and sick in the name of Jesus Christ.

Really, this is just all part of the effort to frame Obama as an "other"...he's a Muslim, no he wasn't even born here, no he's not even a REAL Christian!

-spence