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03-01-2012, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
So, they had carte blanche under GWB? Are their numbers regarding the % percentage of denied permits under the different administation. Or are we both speaking anectodally here?
Should continue to have that status... ? If so, I would disagree completely with that mindset...
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"So, they had carte blanche under GWB?"
Stop putting radical, crazy jibberish words in my mouth, OK? I never said Obama eliminated all production. Likewise, I never said that any conservative would let them do whatever they wanted.
And I see that you have obviously chosen to refuse to address the subject of the Canadian pipeline entirely.
What I'm saying is this...as a rule, republicans would allow for more domestic oil production than Obama would allow. I have never heard anyone deny that, anywhere, until now. If you are right (and you are not), why do oil companies give $$ to republicans. They must really be stupid I guess.
Next, you guys will tell me that Obama is a better friend to the unborn than Bush was.
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03-01-2012, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"And I see that you have obviously chosen to refuse to address the subject of the Canadian pipeline entirely.
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Actually, I supported the decision. If he turns around and approves it after Nov 2012 I will be very disapointed.
We'd be refining oil that is produced from THE WORST possible way to obtain a fossil fuel (just short of or on par with strip-mining coal) for the Canadians to then ship anywhere they wanted. We'd have the right to buy it back on the open market. I don't oppose it for the pipeline portion of it, I think the networth to US is very low.
I'd rather see them focus on domestic efforts on more nukes and more domestic natural gas. |
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-01-2012, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Actually, I supported the decision. If he turns around and approves it after Nov 2012 I will be very disapointed.
We'd be refining oil that is produced from THE WORST possible way to obtain a fossil fuel (just short of or on par with strip-mining coal) for the Canadians to then ship anywhere they wanted. We'd have the right to buy it back on the open market. I don't oppose it for the pipeline portion of it, I think the networth to US is very low.
I'd rather see them focus on domestic efforts on more nukes and more domestic natural gas.
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"I think the networth to US is very low." The labor union that would have benefitted (steel workers??) sure made it sound like a big deal.
"I'd rather see them focus on domestic efforts on more nukes and more domestic natural gas"
Agreed.
If gas hits $5 this summer (I don't see how that fails to happen, I think $6 is easily possible if something happens with Israel/Iran), and the GOP shows video of Obama saying "higher gas prices would be good for America" (which he has said, and which is unbelievably stupid), that hurts him big time. We'll see. |
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03-01-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
If gas hits $5 this summer (I don't see how that fails to happen, I think $6 is easily possible if something happens with Israel/Iran), and the GOP shows video of Obama saying "higher gas prices would be good for America" (which he has said, and which is unbelievably stupid), that hurts him big time. We'll see.
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If Obama has said it you shouldn't have any problems finding a video...or at least a quote...sorry I should be more specific.
A real quote, don't just quote your own made up nonsense.
-spence |
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03-01-2012, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If Obama has said it you shouldn't have any problems finding a video...or at least a quote...sorry I should be more specific.
A real quote, don't just quote your own made up nonsense.
-spence
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don't know if Obama has actually stated it but Chu certainly has'''
“Somehow,” Chu said, “we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”
Steven Chu's Europe gas quote haunts President Obama - Bob King - POLITICO.com |
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03-01-2012, 05:02 PM
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No, according to Jim President Obama said "higher gas prices would be good for America" (Jim's quotes).
He's a rational man who's mathematically obsessed with FACTS.
I'm sure he'll chime in soon.
-spence |
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03-02-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
No, according to Jim President Obama said "higher gas prices would be good for America" (Jim's quotes).
He's a rational man who's mathematically obsessed with FACTS.
I'm sure he'll chime in soon.
-spence
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I have to admit, the only reference I could find was energy secretary Chu who said this...
"“Somehow,” Chu said, “we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...reply&p=924457
Spence, I admit I cannot find a quote attributing that to Obama. Now, will you show us the same courtesy? On the Romney dog thing, yuo said putting the dog on the roof says something about Romney's character. But when asked about Obama's character in terms of Rev Wright, you said that you need to consider the good that Wright did, before yuo make any judgments about Obama's character for associating with him. And for the record, you supplied zero evidence of any good done by Wright (who is a snake that got fabulously wealthy by peddling in hate), you just said you "bet" he's done some good things, too.
Spence, when you said something about Romney's character, why were you willing to makwe judgments based on one bad decision in isolation? In Obama's case, you said we need to consider all the good in connection with the bad. Why don't yuo offer Romney the same courtesy?
Answer...you are a hypocrit.
Lastly, Spence...If Mr Chu said he wants our gas prices to be as high as Europe's, and Obama picks this guy as ENERGY SECRETARY of all things, it stands to reason that Obama is on board.
There's a lot of political hay to be made of that statement for the GOP, when gas prices hit $5 in a few months. |
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