There is no way we are going to get a Republican President any time soon.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Agreed. You also left out that the debt is trending up, and we should ask ourselves if the benefits we're seeing are worth the bill that we'll be sticking our kids with. The answer to that question may be "yes", by the way. But I'm not sure reducing unemployment to 8% is necessarily a good thing, if we bankrupt ourselves to get there. That's obviously an oversimplification of a complicated issue. But we should be talking about what he spent to get his results, is all I'm saying.

I think independent voters see the debt problem as bi-partisan.

Sure it could - the election is 6 months away, in case you didn't know. You don't want to peak too early. I'm not saying that's what's happening, I'm just saying if the market tanks in October, no one will care what it did in February.

I think we're trending strong and the economy will continue to gain strength if global instability doesn't disrupt it.

That's your fringe opinion. Chances are (after super Tuesday), Romney will be the lock, and that's 6 months before the election. Back in 2008, Hilary and Obama were in a brutal slugfest right up until the convention. I don't remember hearing you (or anyone) say then, that the primary would leave the Democrats as "damaged goods". Why the difference in opinion? Why is a bitter contest good for Democrats, but bad for Republicans?

No, it's a mainstream opinion. Hell, the biggest critics of the Republican contestants are the leading conservative media outlets.

We've covered this before. With Obama and Clinton the party saw 2 viable options. With the GOP the party doesn't see any viable options.

As of today, there are 33 Senate Democrats that are retiring or up for re-election. Only 10 Republicans are retiring or up for re-election. I'll make you any gentleman's wager you choose that the GOP has a net increase in the House and in the Senate.

Your numbers are wrong. It's 21 Democrat, 2 Independent and 10 Republican. Additionally, the majority of Democrat races are in Blue or Purple states.

I'll take your wager.

Agreed. The economy and Iran are 2 huge factors.

I think they're linked. If Iran blows up it will put a large strain on the economy.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I think independent voters see the debt problem as bi-partisan.


I think we're trending strong and the economy will continue to gain strength if global instability doesn't disrupt it.


No, it's a mainstream opinion. Hell, the biggest critics of the Republican contestants are the leading conservative media outlets.

We've covered this before. With Obama and Clinton the party saw 2 viable options. With the GOP the party doesn't see any viable options.


Your numbers are wrong. It's 21 Democrat, 2 Independent and 10 Republican. Additionally, the majority of Democrat races are in Blue or Purple states.

I'll take your wager.



I think they're linked. If Iran blows up it will put a large strain on the economy.

-spence

"I think independent voters see the debt problem as bi-partisan."

If you think independents don't see a difference on the debt issue between liberals and conservatives, I disagree.

"I think we're trending strong and the economy will continue to gain strength if global instability doesn't disrupt it."

I can't refute that...

"No, it's a mainstream opinion. Hell, the biggest critics of the Republican contestants are the leading conservative media outlets."

Spence, when all you do is look for folks who bash the GGOP, you'll find them...

"Your numbers are wrong. It's 21 Democrat, 2 Independent and 10 Republican."

Sorry, typo on my part, I meant 23 for Dems/independents...

'Additionally, the majority of Democrat races are in Blue or Purple states."

You're missing the point. The races in the purple states are exactly where you are vulnerable, as opposed to CT for example. Democratis seats being contested include the following states...NE, NM, ND, VA, WI, FL, MN, MO, MT, OH, PA).

"I'll take your wager."

$25 to the charity of the loser's choice? I win if the GOP makes gains in both the house and the senate. Otherwise, you win. Aggressively setting the bar for me, but I'm confident. Are you in?

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, when all you do is look for folks who bash the GGOP, you'll find them...

No, I read just about everything.

You're missing the point. The races in the purple states are exactly where you are vulnerable, as opposed to CT for example. Democratis seats being contested include the following states...NE, NM, ND, VA, WI, FL, MN, MO, MT, OH, PA).

The only state you list where the GOP has a great chance is Nebraska, a few like Florida or Maine could go either way.

$25 to the charity of the loser's choice? I win if the GOP makes gains in both the house and the senate. Otherwise, you win. Aggressively setting the bar for me, but I'm confident. Are you in?

Deal, what charity are you going to pick?

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

No, I read just about everything.


The only state you list where the GOP has a great chance is Nebraska, a few like Florida or Maine could go either way.
Deal, what charity are you going to pick?

-spence

"a few like Florida or Maine could go either way."

We're saying the same thing, I think. My point is, very few of the seats are in guaranteed blue states like CT. Many will be in play. Spence, do you know why so many Democrats are retiring (like Ben Nelson - NE and Kent Contrad - ND)? Because these guys see that they are polling at less than zero, and they don't have the character to face the music. The GOP is going to open up a serious can of whoop-ass in the Senate elections.



I'll pick Wounded Warriors. It's a great charity that makes it possible for families of wonded vets to be with, and care for, the wounded when they return. A great charity.

What's yours? Free Abu Mumia Jamal? Kidding...

I like this bet Spence, if I lose, at least I know some good will come out of it, so thanks. And remember, I only win if the GOP makes gains in BOTH the Senate and the House. No way we fail to make gains in the Senate, the House could go either way. I should've asked for odds, but I am a man of my word as you will see...