DEP seizes black sea bass caught out of legal season

[bigwavedave]

It's great they put not only his pic up but the boat also . Not so good for bookings . It's a shame that whatever the fines and such will be it wont be enough . They need to make strong examples of idiots like this so maybe it will act as a deterent for the rest of these people
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[macojoe]

He acknowledge that he did see fishermen keeping black see bass, but said, “I didn’t think it was that many. And I’m not getting paid by the state of New Jersey to take fish out of people’s buckets.”

Any party boat I have been on will not let you keep shorts or other off season fish! He is responsible for who ever and what ever people do when on his boat!!
I am on my boat.

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by macojoe

Any party boat I have been on will not let you keep shorts or other off season fish! He is responsible for who ever and what ever people do when on his boat!!
I am on my boat.

no he is [B]NOT[B] legally responsible for what paying fares do on his boat. He posted signs and informed the anglers at the beginning of the trip that sea bass were out of season. He is not empowered or required to enforce the regs. He did what he is supposed to do and the individuals who elected to violate the regs are the ones who should pay the price.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

no he is [B]NOT[B] legally responsible for what paying fares do on his boat. He posted signs and informed the anglers at the beginning of the trip that sea bass were out of season. He is not empowered or required to enforce the regs. He did what he is supposed to do and the individuals who elected to violate the regs are the ones who should pay the price.

You really believe that the mates didn't notice someone w/ 100+ sea-bass in their cooler and at least off hand didn't say, 'Ah Cap....'

they are all indirectly culpable.

On the plus side, this is why Blount pushed for a fillet law, to curb this happening on the PB's coming in and out of Snug this winter....

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

You really believe that the mates didn't notice someone w/ 100+ sea-bass in their cooler and at least off hand didn't say, 'Ah Cap....'

they are all indirectly culpable.

On the plus side, this is why Blount pushed for a fillet law, to curb this happening on the PB's coming in and out of Snug this winter....

So what if they did? They and the Capt. are not legally empowered to enforce the law. Do you call a cop every time you see someone blow a red light or a stop sign? The fact that the DEP did not cite the Captain, just proves my point.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

So what if they did? They and the Capt. are not legally empowered to enforce the law. Do you call a cop every time you see someone blow a red light or a stop sign? The fact that the DEP did not cite the Captain, just proves my point.

No, but IF they knew what was going on, he damn well should have called DEP himself to have them waiting at the dock.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

So what if they did? They and the Capt. are not legally empowered to enforce the law. Do you call a cop every time you see someone blow a red light or a stop sign? The fact that the DEP did not cite the Captain, just proves my point.

So what you are saying is that if you had a charter and the guys started keeping 16" bass you wouldn't say anything????

[toaster816]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

So what if they did? They and the Capt. are not legally empowered to enforce the law. Do you call a cop every time you see someone blow a red light or a stop sign? The fact that the DEP did not cite the Captain, just proves my point.

So turning a blind eye and allowing scum bags to poach is acceptable because they can't make the arrest? Nice logic dude. What a joke.

[niko]

a good partyboat and captain will make an effort to make sure the patrons are not poaching. a #^&#^&#^&#^&ty one will turn a blind eye to it. if you are a good boat and mind the rules you will lose some business from the poaching crowd (who wants to fish w/ them anyway) but end up w/ decent regulars and a good rep. the boat i winter codfish on has a mate that goes through all the coolers and checks all the whole fish going home - if they are short/out of season they get tossed over. there will always be fishermen who skirt the rules - eff them and the boats that allow this

[likwid]

Originally Posted by MakoMike

So what if they did? They and the Capt. are not legally empowered to enforce the law. Do you call a cop every time you see someone blow a red light or a stop sign? The fact that the DEP did not cite the Captain, just proves my point.

Do you allow your fares to poach?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by likwid

Do you allow your fares to poach?

Seems like all he needs to do is advise them of what the limits are and then turn a blind eye.