Who would even do this for a job

[piemma]

Ok Duke. Suppose I say I agree with everything you said. WHAT THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
TSA isn't going away. It's not going to be privatized. It may not stop one terrorist from boarding a plane with a bomb, or a box cutter or a loaded sneaker but it is here to stay and I have to put up with it every week so I accept it as part of my job.
Now you tell me what we can do to mitigate this situation.

[Finaddict]

Paul - I don't fly as nearly as much as you do, but once this year is over I will have a few months total on the road ... I typically check my bag so I don't have to deal with carrying so much stuff ... always have my briefcase/satchel ... but for the TSA, I usually find them pretty decent ... and surprised that the alarms have not sounded with all the pins/plate, etc. that are now residing in my left leg from my accident last year ... just try to be prepared in advance and it goes much more smoothly.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Finaddict

Paul - I don't fly as nearly as much as you do, but once this year is over I will have a few months total on the road ... I typically check my bag so I don't have to deal with carrying so much stuff ... always have my briefcase/satchel ... but for the TSA, I usually find them pretty decent ... and surprised that the alarms have not sounded with all the pins/plate, etc. that are now residing in my left leg from my accident last year ... just try to be prepared in advance and it goes much more smoothly.

And that's the secret. Be prepared. I wear loafers, I always take my belt off and billfold, money, passport, boarding pass everything goes in my briefcase. I just figure they have a job to do and I have to live with it so let's make it as easy for everyone as possible.

Funny stuff about all the pins and plates!!!

I had open heart surgery in 03 and 6 months later I was going through the magnetometer in O'Hare and it went off. The TSA guy kept wanding me and finally made me go in a room and take off my shirt. When he saw the scar that went from my throat to my bellybutton, he felt really bad.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by piemma

Ok Duke. Suppose I say I agree with everything you said. WHAT THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
TSA isn't going away. It's not going to be privatized. It may not stop one terrorist from boarding a plane with a bomb, or a box cutter or a loaded sneaker but it is here to stay and I have to put up with it every week so I accept it as part of my job.
Now you tell me what we can do to mitigate this situation.

If you don't like it, you can either roll over and accept that blatant invasion of privacy and the continual destruction of the Constitution in the name of "security."

Some people just lay down and take these assaults as "a necessary evil" yet it's been proven time and time again that the TSA is ineffective. Seen the recent videos that show how easy our required shot of radiation is to fool?
TSA body scanners proven ineffective by citizen journalist The Right Scoop -

It'd be much easier for a terrorist to hide items in areas in their body other than down under their balls. Would you people tell everyone to "suck it up" if boarding a plane required random "cavity screenings"?

[Sea Dangles]

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you have a right to fly. It does grant you the right to bear arms,using your flawed logic this would enable all passengers to board a plane unchecked and carrying a concealed weapon...brilliant.
Save your pennies and buy a private jet,otherwise save your breath for something more constructive.

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

If you don't like it, you can either roll over and accept that blatant invasion of privacy and the continual destruction of the Constitution in the name of "security."

Some people just lay down and take these assaults as "a necessary evil" yet it's been proven time and time again that the TSA is ineffective.

Back to Dangles point, you don't have the right to fly.

I think the TSA is a lot more effective that you're giving them credit for. The very presence of security alone will inhibit a lot of threats. The liquid rule, shoe rule and pat downs while appearing silly are actually probably going slow down a lot of potential attacks as the bad guys are forced to spend more time and resources planning than executing.

Some argue we should move towards a behavioral profiling system like Israel uses...but I'm not sure that would scale to size the American air system.

If they did I could just see some of you guys asking why it's any of their right to know where you were going

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by spence

Some argue we should move towards a behavioral profiling system like Israel uses...but I'm not sure that would scale to size the American air system.

If they did I could just see some of you guys asking why it's any of their right to know where you were going

-spence

This has already started. You must've missed my comment about the required interrogation at Logan before getting to the security gate. Like I said above, it's only a matter of time before we're randomly required to squat down and spread our cheeks.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

This has already started. You must've missed my comment about the required interrogation at Logan before getting to the security gate. Like I said above, it's only a matter of time before we're randomly required to squat down and spread our cheeks.

They interrogated you because you look shady. Most of us have no problems getting through security.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

They interrogated you because you look shady. Most of us have no problems getting through security.

I've only been further inspected a couple times, one of which included the full rub and tug treatment due to what they called a "false positive" during my shot of radiation. I don't think a young, clean-cut white guy dressed business casual is high up on their "suspicious looking" list.

Just because I'm not the one getting my butt crack fingered before every flight doesn't mean watching the complete, unnecessary erosion of civil liberties around me is any less disgusting - especially when the invasive processes have been demonstrated to be ineffective.

[Sea Dangles]

What civil liberty are you talking about?