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[thefishingfreak]

Yes exactly charter headboat is gen cat & rec cat, depending on the 1st fish killed for that day.
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

Yes exactly charter headboat is gen cat & rec cat, depending on the 1st fish killed for that day.
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Not many charter boats have a solas raft for 8 people let alone 8 survival suits as would be required if you have a 6 person 2 crew charter and get a fish to sell.
Don't know if it would ever be policed but your supposed to make the decision prior and have have all the required safety gear or every passenger when commercial, so technically saying depending on 1st fish killed is not correct.

[thefishingfreak]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Not many charter boats have a solas raft for 8 people let alone 8 survival suits as would be required if you have a 6 person 2 crew charter and get a fish to sell.
Don't know if it would ever be policed but your supposed to make the decision prior and have have all the required safety gear or every passenger when commercial, so technically saying depending on 1st fish killed is not correct.

you only need a solas raft if your documented, and more than 50 miles from the coast, state registered boats never need a Solas raft.
Also you also do not need survival suits in july, aug, or sept.

http://www.uscg.mil/d1/prevention/Co...gest-20081.pdf

[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

you only need a solas raft if your documented, and more than 50 miles from the coast, state registered boats never need a Solas raft.
Also you also do not need survival suits in july, aug, or sept.

http://www.uscg.mil/d1/prevention/Co...gest-20081.pdf

Vessels 5 net ton displacement + supposed to be documented according to cg.
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[thefishingfreak]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Vessels 5 net ton displacement + supposed to be documented according to cg.
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I called on that. They said its not enforced and if you were to hire a professional surveyor to specifically calculate net tonnage most boats would be way under. His example was a recent 47 footer with an 18 foot beam came in at 2 tons. So by simple calculations (LxBxD-:-100)x67=gross tonnage, will be way over 5 on most boats. and net is Gross x.80 or 80% of gross. So the coast guard "says" most vessels over 25' will be 5tons but in reality not so much.

How do you think they get away with commercially fishing Canadian boats? Canadian boats can't be documented
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[jasonsnova]

Originally Posted by thefishingfreak

you only need a solas raft if your documented, and more than 50 miles from the coast, state registered boats never need a Solas raft.
Also you also do not need survival suits in july, aug, or sept.

http://www.uscg.mil/d1/prevention/Co...gest-20081.pdf

so if thats the case how come 99% of guys that are rec dont get commercial permits instead of rec ones and just fish tuna july-august? Most the tuna i see are july on in the area i fish. From what i could tell the biggest thing holding back most from going from rec to commercial was the survial suits and rafts......am i missing something? Is there more reqiured?

[buckmanjr]

Originally Posted by jasonsnova

so if thats the case how come 99% of guys that are rec dont get commercial permits instead of rec ones and just fish tuna july-august? Most the tuna i see are july on in the area i fish. From what i could tell the biggest thing holding back most from going from rec to commercial was the survial suits and rafts......am i missing something? Is there more reqiured?

Because a rec wants to keep a 27-72'' fish and eat it, if they got a general cat permit, they can only kill 73''+ fish and sell them.