Trayvon / Media

[likwid]

Where's all the black on hispanic violence?

[scottw]

"But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman's past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting."

did anyone read this?

George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting | Reuters

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by scottw

"But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman's past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting."

did anyone read this?

George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting | Reuters

WOW ! interesting read. I think all Zims lawyers need to do is read that out loud and he would be acquited.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

WOW ! interesting read. I think all Zims lawyers need to do is read that out loud and he would be acquited.

He's a good guy! He just has had a couple restraining orders along with calls of domestic violence, no worries!

Also make sure to put this part of the 911 call on repeat:
"These #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s," he muttered in an aside, "they always get away."

Aquit!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by likwid

He's a good guy! He just has had a couple restraining orders along with calls of domestic violence, no worries!

Also make sure to put this part of the 911 call on repeat:
"These #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s," he muttered in an aside, "they always get away."

Aquit!

The dead kid was no choir boy, either.

Not sure if that matters...

You weren't there, neither was I. It's no crime (though bad judgment) to refuse to obey a dispatcher. It's going to be a very tough case to prosecute.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The dead kid was no choir boy, either.

Not sure if that matters...

You weren't there, neither was I. It's no crime (though bad judgment) to refuse to obey a dispatcher. It's going to be a very tough case to prosecute.

The 911 call will pretty much paint him as a vigilante out to shoot someone.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

The 911 call will pretty much paint him as a vigilante out to shoot someone.

really?
here is the full transcript. Not media talking points. please tell me which parts paint him as a vigilante? He sounds controlled and polite to the 911 operator. he tells them exactly where he is and exactly where the police should meet him. Would a murderer do that? He is noticably shaken when he provides his address because he realizes that that potential thief (in his state of mind) might over hear. The jury will hear fear in this, not aggression.
He twice make derogratory remarks about thieves - not trayvon, thieves. 99.99% of people believe thieves are punks, a-holes, etc. The jury will relate.
The 911 dispatcher says- We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Sounds like the dispatcher is on Zimmermans side! On the wire! He is approving Zimmermans actions!
And for the grand finale - the 911 operator says - "we dont need you to do that" when Zim is following. That wasnt an order, that was a comment. They didnt tell him not to follow.
This is what you base your case on? Please read the transcript and tell me how this hangs zimmerman?

Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin | Phoebe's Detention Room

Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin | Phoebe's Detention Room

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

He's a good guy! He just has had a couple restraining orders along with calls of domestic violence, no worries!

Also make sure to put this part of the 911 call on repeat:
"These #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s," he muttered in an aside, "they always get away."

Aquit!

Likiwd, try for a minute to use your brain, not your feelings -
Put black granny on the stand saying that black kids have been robbing the neighborhood and put neighbors on the stand saying that Zimmerman has been trying to help out. Put examples how recently robbers have escaped after Zimmerman called, etc. The jury will be sympathtic to Zim. I dont know if you've been on a jury but its all about getting the jury to like or dislike someone. That is who they will believe. Facts are sketchy, this case will be all about character.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Likiwd, try for a minute to use your brain, not your feelings -
Put black granny on the stand saying that black kids have been robbing the neighborhood and put neighbors on the stand saying that Zimmerman has been trying to help out. Put examples how recently robbers have escaped after Zimmerman called, etc. The jury will be sympathtic to Zim. I dont know if you've been on a jury but its all about getting the jury to like or dislike someone. That is who they will believe. Facts are sketchy, this case will be all about character.

This is about Zimmerman taking matters into his own hands and shooting someone, not any of your other bs.

Yes, I've been on two juries.
Its not about symapthy or any other bs you spew up, its about facts.

Fact is, he gunned the kid down. They won't be able to prove he was defending ANYTHING given he STALKED the kid.

Now, tell me, what is it like to have the media telling you how to think?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

This is about Zimmerman taking matters into his own hands and shooting someone, not any of your other bs.

Yes, I've been on two juries.
Its not about symapthy or any other bs you spew up, its about facts.

Fact is, he gunned the kid down. They won't be able to prove he was defending ANYTHING given he STALKED the kid.

Now, tell me, what is it like to have the media telling you how to think?

Thats bs - every fact they put up to support that, the defense will have a counter. Stalked, thats an opinion, not a fact. It is a fact that when Zim witnessed a crime, the police got there too late, fact. It speaks to his rationale, its not illegal to follow a person who may be commititng a crime - then look at the history of the neighborhood. Who is your eyewitness? no one! It will come down to circumstance and character.
Sorry, not the media, my own opinion. Sorry it doesnt agree with yours. So you are saying that the prosecution will not try to paint zimmerman as a hot headed vigilante? There case will be all fact? BullShat.