Trayvon / Media

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

The 911 call will pretty much paint him as a vigilante out to shoot someone.

really?
here is the full transcript. Not media talking points. please tell me which parts paint him as a vigilante? He sounds controlled and polite to the 911 operator. he tells them exactly where he is and exactly where the police should meet him. Would a murderer do that? He is noticably shaken when he provides his address because he realizes that that potential thief (in his state of mind) might over hear. The jury will hear fear in this, not aggression.
He twice make derogratory remarks about thieves - not trayvon, thieves. 99.99% of people believe thieves are punks, a-holes, etc. The jury will relate.
The 911 dispatcher says- We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Sounds like the dispatcher is on Zimmermans side! On the wire! He is approving Zimmermans actions!
And for the grand finale - the 911 operator says - "we dont need you to do that" when Zim is following. That wasnt an order, that was a comment. They didnt tell him not to follow.
This is what you base your case on? Please read the transcript and tell me how this hangs zimmerman?

Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin | Phoebe's Detention Room

Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin | Phoebe's Detention Room

[likwid]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

really?
here is the full transcript. Not media talking points. please tell me which parts paint him as a vigilante? He sounds controlled and polite to the 911 operator. he tells them exactly where he is and exactly where the police should meet him. Would a murderer do that? He is noticably shaken when he provides his address because he realizes that that potential thief (in his state of mind) might over hear. The jury will hear fear in this, not aggression.
He twice make derogratory remarks about thieves - not trayvon, thieves. 99.99% of people believe thieves are punks, a-holes, etc. The jury will relate.
The 911 dispatcher says- We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Sounds like the dispatcher is on Zimmermans side! On the wire! He is approving Zimmermans actions!
And for the grand finale - the 911 operator says - "we dont need you to do that" when Zim is following. That wasnt an order, that was a comment. They didnt tell him not to follow.
This is what you base your case on? Please read the transcript and tell me how this hangs zimmerman?

Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin | Phoebe's Detention Room

Zimmerman 911 Call Transcript – Trayvon Martin | Phoebe's Detention Room

Facts:
He stalked the kid. (Proven by the fact HE TELLS THE DISPATCHER HE'S FOLLOWING TRAYVON)
He got into a confrontation with the kid. (Proven by the injuries)
He shot the kid. (The hole in the kid)

Horse dookie:
Everything you said.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by likwid

Facts:
He stalked the kid. (Proven by the fact HE TELLS THE DISPATCHER HE'S FOLLOWING TRAYVON)
He got into a confrontation with the kid. (Proven by the injuries)
He shot the kid. (The hole in the kid)

Horse dookie:
Everything you said.

I agree with your facts. But they don't prove that Zimmerman committed a crime, not by a long shot. Those facts that you listed, in no way prove that Martin didn't initiate the situation that made it reasonable for Zimmerman to assume he was in grave danger.

I'm not saying I like what Zimmerman did. I'm saying that the facts you listed don't even come close to eliminating reasonable doubt.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by likwid

Facts:
He stalked the kid. (Proven by the fact HE TELLS THE DISPATCHER HE'S FOLLOWING TRAYVON) - yup, he is following a suspicious person in an area with break ins- thats stewardship and good citizenship. Protecting his neighbors
He got into a confrontation with the kid. (Proven by the injuries) - who started it? defense will say TrayvonHe shot the kid. (The hole in the kid) - self defence

Horse dookie:
Everything you said.

Gee, that was a diffucult defense to your iron clad case

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

The 911 dispatcher says- We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Sounds like the dispatcher is on Zimmermans side! On the wire! He is approving Zimmermans actions!
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I think "On the Wire" means that they have dispatched it to units in the area to check out....I don't think its approving Zimmerman's actions.

I got a feeling this trial is going to be more about the Stand your Ground law than about Zimmerman's innocence or guilt