Gay love

[RIJIMMY]

so basically he is catering to his base when there is less to lose, great.

personally, I endorse love and its not my business who people love or whether its called marriage or not. Marriage between two consenting adults, man or woman should be no concern for the govt as marriage is a legal arrangement and nothing more. If churchs want to ban it, thats their business. Govt should have no say. So I guess that makes me pro-gay marriage.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

so basically he is catering to his base when there is less to lose, great.

No, I think it's called well managed organizational change.

Obama took a measured approach to unwind DADT and I think has been very successful. The gay marriage thang is more tricky as it's likely to be more of an issue at the state level but will be a focus in the national debate...

I think it was a good card to play. It's one of those issues that once you get over it you realize it really wasn't worth the fuss in the first place.

-spence

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by spence

No, I think it's called well managed organizational change.

-spence

Ha, ha. If it were someone in the other party, would you be calling it "flip - flop"?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Piscator

Ha, ha. If it were someone in the other party, would you be calling it "flip - flop"?

No, Obama has always kept his position as "evolving"...political speak for not the right time.

-spence

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

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personally, I endorse love and its not my business who people love or whether its called marriage or not. Marriage between two consenting adults, man or woman should be no concern for the govt as marriage is a legal arrangement and nothing more. If churchs want to ban it, thats their business. Govt should have no say. So I guess that makes me pro-gay marriage.

And I think this sums up why the WH did this.

This is (from my observations) the opinion of a lot of independent voters. He will force Mitt to respond, how it plays out... I do think politically it is a gamble, especially with what happened in NC yesterday.

As far as this issue goes, I have yet to hear an argument (excluding churches, which can do as they want) as to why this is such a big deal. I find the marriage of a gay or lesbian couple less deeming to the sanctity of marriage than a quickie Vegas wedding or Kim Kardashian etc... unless we start calling all non-church weddings Civil Unions

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

This is (from my observations) the opinion of a lot of independent voters. :

Can you elucidate on those observations? Personally, I have no problems with gay marriage. But gay marriage was flatly rejected by the first 32 states where it was voted on, and that includes California and Oregon. It was rejected in red states, blue states, and purple states.

I see very little support for gay marriage outside of the far left. Which is funny, because that's one of the very, very things I agree with liberals on. But the vast, vast majority of Americans clearly don't want it.

I can only assume Obama said this to energize his base, but it will alienate the independents he needs.