What Used To Be...... - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Backbeach Jake · 06-04-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bart

I understand you have a business to run, but seriously, please don't insult the peoples' intelligence who've fished it hard their whole lives...

Bart not for nothing, but I've never known Rich to lie, mislead, or insult anyone's intelligence. He's a square shooter.

BigFish · 06-04-2012, 08:33 PM

I have to agree with BBJ....Rich is a great guy!!

MAKAI · 06-04-2012, 10:57 PM

I believe it's called " shifting baseline syndrome ".

What some of us experienced in the 70's 80's and 90's doesn't apply to the standards of today. Back then I expected to find decent fish on the beach. Now I'm pleasantly surprised to find it. Guess I got a little spoiled. Yesterdays 25-40's are todays 15-25's.

l.i.fish.in.vt · 06-05-2012, 06:19 AM

the fact is most fishermen are a lazy bunch of guys.If they can't get in thier truck and drive to the fish,then to them there are no fish.if they have to walk more than a few hundred feet game over.with very few fishermen comes very few reports,most fishermen are not capable of finding fish on their own. you can live on memories from the past,but in fact many of the stories i hear are just that stories.you don't hear pf the weeks and seasons of few or no fish back in the day.though i didn't start fishing the cape till 97 i have some very close freinds who have been there since the early 60's and they paint a very differant story then most that i hear today.i find it rather amusing how people can say how bad fishing is yet in the last 5 years i tell you the names of every fishermen that i have come across at night in the Wellfleet truro ptown area.and i average well over a100 nights a year.in that area.no arguing that the times have changed,i have fished for more than 50 years and things have chaged every where,patterns have changed places have changed,if you don't change than you are stuck in the past.

BigFish · 06-05-2012, 07:17 AM

I for one am a walker John....and I like it that way! Gets me away from the yahoos!!! All the guys you speak of or at least 90% of them....who are doing well either live down there or spend the entire summer there like yourself....so the long drive and financial cost is not a factor to you and thus you have more time to find the fish and work on a consistent game plan. As I said the fishing IS NOT as it used to be...and it is a fact.

MAKAI · 06-05-2012, 07:58 AM

I am far from a lazy fisherman as are the guys I fish with who live close by to those beaches. Even pre seals you would have some long dry spells but the size and consistency of the fish was better. Still a lot of people back then had trouble finding them. You always had to know the lay of the land, put in your time, have some skill and do the work.

I'm still at it and will be doing it till I walk no more. Though I sure fish a hell of a lot more areas than I had to.

fishonnelsons · 06-05-2012, 07:58 AM

Larry - you make a good point (more than a few most of the time!!).

If I had a choice to drive 2 hours to the Race or 1 hour to a point closer, and they were both "ok" places, I guess I would go with the 1 hour.

Also, you are right, their are a group of people who live here, or summer/weekend here in the campgrounds, who fish alot, and they are the ones getting the fish - they put in their time here, go to the spots, etc etc. and catch fish.

Oh, and Bart, read my post - said it wasn't like it used to be - said things change - nothing is like it used to be - never said it was the best, greater than any other spot. I don't think that's insulting anyones intelligence (??). Also, having a fishing business here doesn't enter into this discussion - seriously, if you think that a post would sway people to drive two hours than maybe those people don't have any intelligence.

Bottom line - as Larry said in the beginning, fishing here is NOT like it used to be, I agree, but my opinion is it has changed everywhere. Also, my opinion still stands - there are fish to catch here - have to spend a lot of time and walk a lot of miles.

BigFish · 06-05-2012, 08:08 AM

And yet I still go down there as much as I can Rich....because I love it down there!!! Just nice to be on the water as far as I am concerned! I just have such a great appreciation for it down there and memories of so many great trips and its just different now. As I said though......I love it down there...some of the most beautiful beaches and scenery on the planet as far as I am concerned!!! Hope you are enjoying the season Rich!