30# test is not enough for the ditch

[ecduzitgood]

If anything I am trying to help newbies to the canal. All of you who fish 30# or under and have experience fishing the ditch probably avoid the mainland 170 to 220 zoo because you already know there may be problems with the gear you use and the newbies around you. Plus how many of you that take offense to my opinion don't land a 25 pound or less fish in 10 to 15 minutes?
If it makes you feel better I found out how too much pressure can be a bad thing and lost 3 fish I shouldn't have lost except for my mistakes.
Friday after landing a 32 pounder in less than 10 minutes, the 5/0 Owner hook on the Sebile salt and sun 182 bonga that I used inplace of the 4/0 4x vmc on my 182 stick shadd bent twice (2 of 3 hooks) and I didn't notice the slight bend until after losing the second fish.
Then on Saturday after switching the hook to a 5/0 4x vmc and using 100# roscoe split ring I had a decent fish open the split ring and make off with my new hook.
If you catch a fish with a new 5/0 vmc trebble stuck in it you can keep the hook.....I would like the fish though because I got my hook there first
Loving my new Century 1328 I got Thursday, man can that rod apply pressure paired up with my Saltist 6000 and 60# Jerry brown 16 strand hollow braid. I am switching to 50# slick 8 when my Saltiga 6000 gets here this week so I am adjusting to the new way to fish the ditch.
I have fished nothing but conventionals and mono for over 30 years and been spooled twice...never again.

My next rant will address casting from the access road while someone is fishing below you.

[Mike P]

The day it takes me 15 minutes to land a 25 pound fish is the day I sell all my rods and take up golf.

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The day it takes me 15 minutes to land a 25 pound fish is the day I sell all my rods and take up golf.

Just making sure everyone understands that I have no problem with people who use it and use it well. I am sure you and I would have no problem fishing together; but don't you think for most people 30#test is too light?
Anyone who took offense to my saying after 10-15 minutes waiting I'm casting think about what you reacting to.
At the most I could see perhaps I wasn't clear when I said if the angler and gear weren't up to the challenge. To be a little more specific if your wearing sneakers and have gear that looks better suited for schoolies (you know the type).
I did not mean people who have experience in conditions similar and know how to deal with it using lighter gear.
I also didn't mean people who have physical limitations including age, both young and old (I will wait patiently and even cheer them on because the fish they catch will mean more to them then the fish I'm not catching at the time).
I hope some of you will forgive me for voicing my opinion.
I really wonder how much more distance most people get when they go from 50# to 30# test?
I really should find a place to see just how far I am capable of casting my 80# and 60# on my vs300 against my saltist 6000 with 60# and a slatiga 6000 with 50#.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

Anyone who took offense to my saying after 10-15 minutes waiting I'm casting think about what you reacting to.

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the way it was worded and sounded, it seemed like after that time period you would cast your heavy braid and just reel in the other line or cross it on purpose

I understand now

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

the way it was worded and sounded, it seemed like after that time period you would cast your heavy braid and just reel in the other line or cross it on purpose

I understand now

Sorry folks, I am not the brightest bulb on the tree. Sometimes I can't get my thoughts worded properly while trying to sift through all the chatter in my mind. It is very frustrating at times, especially when I apparently time out and have to start all over again. If I can't use a hammer or a wrench on it I am not very good with it

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

the way it was worded and sounded, it seemed like after that time period you would cast your heavy braid and just reel in the other line or cross it on purpose

I understand now

I don't know how you could have jumped to that conclusion.

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood

I am going to give you 10 minutes to 15 minutes tops to get your fish out of my way unless I can see the gear and the angler are up to the challenge...if it looks like you are using 20# test and light gear than we are going to have a problem, my 60# is coming.

So if you show up later than me and think I am going to wait long for you to land a fish guess again, my 60# or 80# is going right over your line after a reasonable wait 10-15 minutes

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I don't know how you could have jumped to that conclusion.

What...no welcome back Kevin? When was the last time it took you more than 10 minutes to to get a fish out of someones way?
It's time to wash my hands of this issue

[bloocrab]

I'm with ya Mike...I do the same,, just having fun as usual.
For the most part, you know when your fish has no more umph and the next guy can cast...same goes if you've watched the guy to the side of you battle his fish, you have a good idea of when you can cast yourself...experience teaches you that. Unfortunately, there are still those that want to get out there at any cost...


I do feel your pain though ECduzit....I actually had a good laugh at the expense of this thread this past weekend (same place). Fishermen were stacked up like cord-wood,,, 2 guys down from me, guy gets whacked....FISH ON!! Immediately after hook-up, the guy literally ...just stands there. Holds his rod tip up high loosens the drag and stands there....drag is peeling, he's doing nothing. After a hard minute (which is actually a long time) he starts moving up to the service road....HASN'T TURNED THE HANDLE ONCE or ADJUSTED THE DRAG, just working his way up the rocks!!!...So now he's up on the service road, waits a little longer and then after a brief "look-at-me" stare to the surrounding people...he starts reeling in....and reeling...and reeling, fish took quite a bit of line. He shakes his arm as if its tired from this monster bass at the end of his line. He definitely has the attention of the surrounding fishermen. We're all anxiously as well as courteously waiting to see this 50+#er...Due to the amount of line he fed out, he's taken out at least 4 people to his right. Again, we're all waiting...at this point, not mad...because it will be worth it once we see this behometh of a Striper.





Guy finally lands it...........35 INCH fish. Lots of pissed off fishermen....then the guy strings it out back into the Canal. Another No-No.... Not really worth getting upset about this stuff, when your fishing in an environment like the CCC in May/June, this is expected. That's why quite a few don't fish those morning tides...they're willing to make the necessary sacrifices to have their serenity. I still find humor in it all, but with age comes grumpiness...(so this Forum suggests)

[Backbeach Jake]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The day it takes me 15 minutes to land a 25 pound fish is the day I sell all my rods and take up golf.

I've seen you take that long or longer, BUT the fish was on the far side of a bridge abutment. Time and patience won out and I learned something. It was worth the wait.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

I've seen you take that long or longer, BUT the fish was on the far side of a bridge abutment. Time and patience won out and I learned something. It was worth the wait.

I also had no drag on my reel. It was one of those stupid Nautils, where the spool snapped onto a base, and it came loose. I had to palm the spool every time I lifted the rod.

I ordered my Saltiga the next morning.