Obamacare easily survives supreme court

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by likwid

No, it actually means one of three things, he's a liar, he doesn't know what a tax hike is, or he's a politician who's fleeced you.

But only a buffoon would be fleeced right?

Unless you're in on the take, you've been fleeced too. So you're either a buffoon or a crook.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Unless you're in on the take, you've been fleeced too. So you're either a buffoon or a crook.

It doesn't take either to have common sense.
And having actually done some reading.

Technically speaking the IRS collects more than just taxes, but, semantics, etc.

Calling it a tax just makes it constitutionally sound.

I'm gonna guess nobody realized that the "penalty" aka "tax" was collected by the IRS did they?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by likwid

It doesn't take either to have common sense.
And having actually done some reading.

Technically speaking the IRS collects more than just taxes, but, semantics, etc.

Calling it a tax just makes it constitutionally sound.

I'm gonna guess nobody realized that the "penalty" aka "tax" was collected by the IRS did they?

On what basis is it constitutionally sound? Are you saying the Constitution places no limits on the fedgov to tax. It lists three types of taxes that are allowed. Taxing inactivity is not one of the those types. And, obviously, the Constitution, ORIGINALLY, limited the governments power to tax. That's why the progressives fought so hard for the sixteenth amendment and created the income tax. Inactivity is not income. Taxing inactivity is not an excise tax and the capitation was a direct tax levied proportionally on the States. Where does taxing individual inactivity fit in the three types of taxes constitutioinally allowed? It doesn't, and Roberts knew it. But his decision now erases the taxing limitations in the Constitution and gives the government unlimited power through its now undefined general power of taxation. This is classic legislation from the bench. Nor does the decision eliminate the other judicial legislation regarding unlimited power through misuse of the commerce clause, as some think it does. This is simple and pure trashing of the Constitution in favor of allowing the fedgove to do whatever it wishes, with occasional dissents when 5 judges decide not to like what it does. This is government by whim, not by law.