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Old 07-21-2012, 08:52 PM   #1
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you should read this....

Questions about Huma Abedin - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online

"Now, I’m perfectly willing to believe that McCain may not know what the words “unspecified” and “unsubstantiated” mean. That, however, would not excuse his use of them in this context. The ties of Ms. Abedine’s father, mother, and brother to the Muslim Brotherhood are both specific and substantiated."
Why would anyone want to read a slob site op-ed that has about as much relevance in reality as Bachmann's hysterical accusations?

I browsed through and tried to read the psycho ties he tries to create via, yet again, unsubstantiated claims.
Such as claiming the institute her father was part of was backed by a group that had brotherhood members in it. Yet again, 20 years ago.

His whole theory DEEPLY relies on the common reader being basically ignorant to the history of the Muslim Brotherhood.

But yet again, no name op ed on a no name website.
Crack dealers on Staten Island have more relevance.

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Old 07-22-2012, 04:55 AM   #2
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Why would anyone want to read a slob site op-ed that has about as much relevance in reality as Bachmann's hysterical accusations?

But yet again, no name op ed on a no name website.
Crack dealers on Staten Island have more relevance.
he's actually quite versed on the subject, has written extensively on these matters and has first hand experience...just sayin'...I wouldn't expect that you'd have a clue or a coherent comment

Andrew C. McCarthy III is a former Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York. A Republican, he is most notable for leading the 1995 terrorism prosecution against Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven others. The defendants were convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and planning a series of attacks against New York City landmarks.[1] He also contributed to the prosecutions of terrorists who bombed US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. He resigned from the Justice Department in 2003. He is currently a columnist for National Review.

McCarthy was educated at Columbia University and New York Law School, and has served as a professor at the latter and at Fordham University Law School.

He is currently a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, serving as the director of the FDD's Center for Law and Counterterrorism. He has served as an attorney for Rudy Giuliani, and is also a conservative opinion columnist who writes for National Review and Commentary.

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Old 07-22-2012, 06:02 AM   #3
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I think there are some members of Congress that are wondering about the realtionship of this administration and the Muslim Brotherhood, not an unreasonable concern...

Napolitano was on the Hill recently being questioned and this is how it went.....
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The man in question is Mohamed Elibiary, appointed by President Obama and allegedly affiliated with the Islamic Freedom and Justice Party in Egypt.

Napolitano called the allegations against him “misleading” and “objectionable” and implied multiple times that Gohmert and others were accusing Elibiary of wrongdoing simply because he is Muslim.

Gohmert told Napolitano that her staff was apparently lying to her because an investigation found that Elibiary had accessed classified information and had downloaded it. The only thing that wasn’t “confirmed” was that he leaked the information to the press.

“It did not bother you that he accessed information?” Gohmert asked.

The secretary then altered her answer slightly but quickly changed the subject. “He accessed some information. What bothers me quite frankly, are the allegations that are made against anyone that happens to be Muslim,” Napolitano replied.

“Well, the allegations are not because he is Muslim. ”This administration seems to have a hard time recognizing members of terrorist groups who are allowed into the White House. You are aware of that happening aren’t you?”

Napolitano immediately shot back, “Absolutely not.”


Last month, Hani Nour Eldin, a member of Egypt’s parliament, was granted a visa and invited to attend several meetings with high-ranking White House and State Department officials, some in the executive mansion. Eldin is also a member of Gamaa Islamiya, a radical Islamic group currently listed as a designated terrorist organization.

For the next several minutes, Gohmert pressed Napolitano on whether she knew what the Freedom and Justice Party in Egypt was. After initially dodging the question, she answered “Yes.”

Are you aware that Mr. Elibiary’s foundation that has now been, had their charter pulled because they have failed to provide the information that the government requires to keep their 501(c)(3) status — are you aware that that was, before the 501 (c)(3) status was pulled, called the Freedom and Justice Foundation?” asked Gohmert.

“Representative, I am not going to get into a debate about some of this — ” Napolitano started.

“I am asking you if you know simple facts!” Gohmert replied. “I don’t want a debate, this is a question and answer.”

The Freedom and Justice Party is an Islamist political party in Egypt with ties to the radical Muslim Brotherhood. The party won 47.2 percent of all seats in Egypt’s lower house of parliament and praised the election of Muslim Brotherhood candidate Mohamed Mursi.

Napolitano absolutely refused to answer the question and was interrupted repeatedly by Gohmert because of her inability to give a straight answer.

These kinds of insinuations demean the committee,” a frustrated Napolitano said. “The insinuation that I or my staff would allow someone who is a terrorist to infiltrate –”




so the moral of the story is that this administration does not have to provide answers to simple questions and even if the answer is "yes", you are wrong for asking the question because you are by default a hater and simply asking the questions relegates you to the status of 'demeaning insuator" this is great

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Old 07-22-2012, 06:10 AM   #4
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A Republican, he is most notable for leading the 1995 terrorism prosecution against Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and eleven others.
The most open and shut case in the history of NY law makes him an expert? Are you kidding me?
A 12yo could have tried that trial and won.

Did you know that al-Qaeda hates the hell out of the Muslim Brotherhood for supporting democratic elections?

No, most likely not.
That would require you to go beyond posting op-eds that have zero relevance. And this kooks splooge on a scam site (if he's so important, why isn't he on fox et al?) made you all doe eyed huh?

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there seems to be a clear pattern of nastiness among the open-minded, tolerant compassionates lately

lending support for Jim's theory
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:02 AM   #6
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there seems to be a clear pattern of nastiness among the open-minded, tolerant compassionates lately

lending support for Jim's theory
It's not a "theory", no more than gravity is a "theory".

Scott, i sthat a true conversation you posted between Napolitano and a congressman? Nah, she's not in over her head...
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[QUOTE=likwid;949744].
Did you know that al-Qaeda hates the hell out of the Muslim Brotherhood for supporting democratic elections?
No, most likely not.
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i guess the feelings are not all mutual

June 24, 2012

CAIRO — Egypt’s military rulers on Sunday officially recognized Mohamed Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood as the winner of Egypt’s first competitive presidential election, handing the Islamists both a symbolic triumph and a potent weapon in their struggle for power against the country’s top generals.

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MIDDLE EAST NEWS

June 29, 2012

Morsi Promises to Free 'Blind Sheik' from U.S. Prison
Promises to Free 'Blind Sheik' from U.S. Prison

BY MATT BRADLEY

Egypt's President-elect Mohammed Morsi made a nod to his base in a speech on Friday when he pledged to seek the release of Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman from U.S. custody.

Sheik Abdel-Rahman, who is better known as the "blind sheik" is serving a life sentence at a federal penitentiary in North Carolina for his role in planning the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City.

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