Red Sox Passed Away....

[The Dad Fisherman]

They are a mess right now.

Bobby V needs to go....didn't like that choice when they made it.....still don't like it.

Starting pitching has been abysmal this year.

I can't go the Despicable route with them...but there is nobody on that team that strikes fear into an opponent...nobody

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

They are a mess right now.

Bobby V needs to go....didn't like that choice when they made it.....still don't like it.

I have to disagree. I think Bobby V is a good catalyst for this team to clean out the closet. When he is fired, I don't foresee him keeping his mouth shut unless he's paid to do so.

It's like cleaning out your closet or under the bed - the room gets extremely messy before it's reorganized.

[fishsmith]

There are two problems with the Red Sox Lester and Beckett, if they pitched .500 ball, we'd be in the thick of the wild card.

I always have an always will root for the Red Sox, but this year has been a bust. Next year they'll be wicked awesome

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I have to disagree. I think Bobby V is a good catalyst for this team to clean out the closet.

That's a Multi-year, Multi million dollar closet....I would prefer he organized his closet better than just dump everything on the floor.

He's abrasive to everybody, has had a long history of being such with other organizations and players.

That being said...these players are being paid Mucho Dinero to produce on the field, regardless if their manager is a tool or not.

Fishsmith hit the nail on the head....Beckett and Lester have been terrible. With the gifts they got out of Doubront and Morales this year, if they pitched anywhere near how they did historically we'd be in the thick of the hunt instead of a joke.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

That's a Multi-year, Multi million dollar closet....I would prefer he organized his closet better than just dump everything on the floor.

He's abrasive to everybody, has had a long history of being such with other organizations and players.

And I think that's what this team needed. The thing is that this team needs someone that's abrasive *and* has the support of the front office. The last guy who was buddies with the players and stroked their egos helped create the disaster that we are witnessing today.

Bobby V was setup to fail. The team started the season in shambles after they stopped giving a crap in September and got the last manager fired, whether purposely or not. This team needed someone that was blunt and a #^&#^&#^&#^& to kick their tails back in gear... and that manager needed the support of the front office.

With just the minor leaks that have been released and John Henry's email yesterday, it's obvious that this team is a mess in every area - on the field, in the dugout *and* in the front office.