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08-27-2012, 01:42 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 475
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Reading the beach
Alright, I have used the search function and way too many things popped up concerning reading the beach.
I'm a rookie surfcaster and only know some basics on what to look for on the beach, but frankly, the only way I can find drop offs for sure are by using a bucktail or tin to feel out the bottom and also if it is more than just sand down there (i.e. a mussel bed).
Tired of skunks in the fall on the beach and frustrated since Fall is my favorite time of the year, if anyone can give their input it is much appreciated. Also if anyone can link me a topic they know of that has this information is great as well.
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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08-27-2012, 02:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Zeal,
Here is an excerpt from my book project that may help.
As basic as I can state it.
Transitions zones are key areas for a surfcaster to locate as they often act as a magnet for forage and in turn for striped bass.
(A transition zone is an area where one type of underwater bottom structure changes to another.) Example: sand beach transitions into a boulder field. Locate transition zones and you’ll often find striped bass.
Hope this helps.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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08-27-2012, 03:44 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
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Zeal pm me your email, I saved a bunch or articles I'll send you
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08-27-2012, 04:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
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Never overlook using something like Google Earth if you're thinking of a specific area.DZ stated the importance of transition zones,if the imagery was taken on a clear sunny day you can certainly see these zones in many cases.
Its another tool that can help but in the end the only true thing that pays off is time and persistence.That and some luck.
Attached is an image of a spot I fish quite often.Not perfect but a great help in determining where to cast.Best fish from that area was 24#.
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08-27-2012, 05:02 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
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If you are strictly fishing sand beaches with no visible rocks, look for stretches of white water that run either perpendicular or parallel to the beach. Fish in front of the white water, in the white water, and on the sides. The white water is formed by waves breaking over a sandbar. The fish will feed in the shallow water on the bar, and the deeper water holes on either side, and the front and back. Figure out which way the current is running during both ebb and flood tides and present the lure to the area where the current pushes bait to waiting gamefish...
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08-27-2012, 06:51 PM
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My brother is bald
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
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You need to search some stuff from Assmaster, I mean Bassmaster. He put a tutorial in the FAQs years back. It breaks chit down pretty good. AS far as what bait is around at certain times of the year, what plugs to use to match the hatch, and hoe to use them. ALthough he focuses on the outer Cape beaches in that thread, it can be generalized to other areas depending on the bait.
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seals + plovers =
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08-27-2012, 06:57 PM
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OLDGOAT7205963
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: CAPE
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put on your swim trunks and walk the beach at low tide you can find or feel alot
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08-27-2012, 07:00 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Watch te crashing waves. Waves that break early are over shallow water. Waves that break late are over holes. Mussel beds will cast mussel shells up on the beach
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08-27-2012, 07:01 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Manzi in a bathing suit 
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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08-27-2012, 08:50 PM
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My brother is bald
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 4,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Manzi in a bathing suit 
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You mean Sling Blade in a bikini??
I'm trying hard to evoke a lost spirit on here.
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seals + plovers =
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08-27-2012, 10:31 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Buxton, Maine
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Old goat hit it right on the head. the beach changes so fast this time of year what with ll the line storms an such that the only way to know it is to feel it ist hand book,searches an all are no help due to the changes this time of yr. once you see it ist hand at low tide you'll then know where to look for the fish. Ron
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08-28-2012, 08:03 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Forget the beach...just look for a crowd of guys casting like no tomorrow, odds are that is a good spot no matter what the bottom looks like.
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08-28-2012, 08:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: massachusetts
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Beach fishing is tough work. It always changes year to year, sometimes day to day. Its one of those things as there are trends/patterns, but you need to learn what to look for. Its not like fishing a rocky point that never changes and is very predicatable.
If I were you, I'd fish eels, fish around the new moons, look for a decent swell and start trying to figure out the winds and tides by just fishing hard. Pick a handful of areas that look good as far as structure and bars and try to find bait. If there is a section of beach that has great structure say 1 mile in length, make a few casts and move 50 feet and repeat. Dont waste your time fishing a flat beach with no bars or outer bars. If there is an inlet in the area I'd concentrate on that.
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08-28-2012, 10:09 AM
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Registered User
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08-28-2012, 09:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
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agreed, pick a few fishy spots and fish them often. Youll pick up a pattern. If they look fishy they probably are.
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I LOVE it when MY WIFE lets me fish
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08-29-2012, 09:28 AM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
Posts: 3,330
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Zeal sent you the email with the articles
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09-05-2012, 05:31 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 475
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rappin Mikey
You need to search some stuff from Assmaster, I mean Bassmaster. He put a tutorial in the FAQs years back. It breaks chit down pretty good. AS far as what bait is around at certain times of the year, what plugs to use to match the hatch, and hoe to use them. ALthough he focuses on the outer Cape beaches in that thread, it can be generalized to other areas depending on the bait.
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Are you sure it's Bassmaster and not Bassdozer?
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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09-05-2012, 07:30 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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LOL. It is bassmaster, Dave Manzi. A very outspoken  , good fisherman, fruit cake  He used to fish the outer beaches of Cape Cod and make plugs until he found hair dye and motorcycles. Such a shame. Maybe he will read this and send me hate mail. Do some searches of his posts and look for some Flaptail posts too, another great beach fisherman that unfortunately has left us too soon. You should be able to garner some info from their posts.
BTW good to see you around how you been?
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-05-2012, 08:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by basswipe
Never overlook using something like Google Earth if you're thinking of a specific area.DZ stated the importance of transition zones,if the imagery was taken on a clear sunny day you can certainly see these zones in many cases.
Its another tool that can help but in the end the only true thing that pays off is time and persistence.That and some luck.
Attached is an image of a spot I fish quite often.Not perfect but a great help in determining where to cast.Best fish from that area was 24#.
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You realize we can read the coordinates, right  ?
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09-06-2012, 12:36 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
LOL. It is bassmaster, Dave Manzi. A very outspoken  , good fisherman, fruit cake  He used to fish the outer beaches of Cape Cod and make plugs until he found hair dye and motorcycles. Such a shame. Maybe he will read this and send me hate mail. Do some searches of his posts and look for some Flaptail posts too, another great beach fisherman that unfortunately has left us too soon. You should be able to garner some info from their posts.
BTW good to see you around how you been?
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I'll give them a go and see what comes up! If I still cannot find some stuff, I'll see if there is another forum that has it.
Been extremely busy but alright, taking my medical licensing board exams this semester while doing residency. Exhausted and fishing trips are limited since I moved closer to NYC (Queens to be exact) for the home stretch with my folks still back on South Shore LI. Unfortunately, I couldn't take the lathe with me and I miss it dearly along with my fishing equipment. Cannot wait to practice again! The only thing I have as any sort of fishing refuge now is here, a spool of fishing line to teach my girlfriend knots (who calls them all "Spit Knots" due to lubing them up), and the 2 seasons of River Monsters I own.
Good to be back, still have the model Nike in mint condition and taking all the measurements  Glad you asked Professor, thanks!
Last edited by Zeal; 09-06-2012 at 12:43 PM..
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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09-06-2012, 03:00 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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That is funny, I should change my name to SpitKnot 
good luck with your residency 
the fish will still be around I'm sure
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09-06-2012, 06:21 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
That is funny, I should change my name to SpitKnot 
good luck with your residency 
the fish will still be around I'm sure
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Thanks a bunch Spitknot :P
Halfway done, graduation is coming up in May!
The fish better be around when I get my few fall trips in so I can play with my new toys such as the Northbar Bottledarter and an SS Bullet (possibly might sneak buy a blurple floating needle to use all hours)! Though with the great advice given about the beach, I'm sure I'll get some 
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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09-06-2012, 06:39 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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good luck with your exams. Fishing will always be there when you are done.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-06-2012, 08:33 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
good luck with your exams. Fishing will always be there when you are done.
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Much thanks, but I gotta bang out a minimum number of trips or I'll die from the shakes after seeing some of the really good stuff you guys pointed me to on reading the beach!
I'd say fishing is an addiction but it's more of a lifestyle for me. Though the side effects of not fishing do mimic withdrawals from drugs of some sort I can swear on that!
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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09-07-2012, 10:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Massachusetts.
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Walk the shore line on an 11, or 11 and a half foot run off!
Do what the above folks recommend in looking for these bars.
Then fish them.
Good luck! 
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You are only as good as the person who’s driving the boat! By the way, the Devil drives my boat!
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09-07-2012, 11:40 AM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LINESIDES
Walk the shore line on an 11, or 11 and a half foot run off!
Do what the above folks recommend in looking for these bars.
Then fish them.
Good luck! 
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is an 11?
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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09-07-2012, 02:10 PM
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Here fishy fishy
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Whoville
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Look for deep holes.
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09-08-2012, 06:18 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Massachusetts.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeal
Forgive my ignorance, but what is an 11?
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It’s a numerical number!
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You are only as good as the person who’s driving the boat! By the way, the Devil drives my boat!
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09-10-2012, 11:54 AM
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fishing the pacific
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Port Townsend, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyvice11787
You realize we can read the coordinates, right  ?
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Keep lines wet and tight in the pacific
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