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Old 09-04-2012, 12:13 PM   #1
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Just like in 2004, the vote is going to come down to a general comfort level with the candidates...and the devil you know often has the upper hand. This campaign is going to be like a boxing match, jab here...exploit their mistake there...

As for the "better off 4 years ago" rhetoric, it's a bunch of nonsense. 4 years ago the economy was on an artificial plateau about to come crashing down. The real question is if we've moved from the bottom which we certainly have.

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Old 09-04-2012, 12:44 PM   #2
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Just like in 2004, the vote is going to come down to a general comfort level with the candidates...and the devil you know often has the upper hand. This campaign is going to be like a boxing match, jab here...exploit their mistake there...

As for the "better off 4 years ago" rhetoric, it's a bunch of nonsense. 4 years ago the economy was on an artificial plateau about to come crashing down. The real question is if we've moved from the bottom which we certainly have.

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"As for the "better off 4 years ago" rhetoric, it's a bunch of nonsense.'

True, we shouldn't be asking if we're better off now then 4 years ago, because as you said, that was before Obama even took office. When people ask that, I think they mean "are you better off now than the day Obama was sworn in", and that's a valid question to consider...

"The real question is if we've moved from the bottom which we certainly have."

Why is that the real question? By definition, once you hit "the bottom", you literally have nowhere to go but up. So why does he get credit for the inevitable improvement from the bottom?


Since Obama took office, (1) the debt has been increased by $5 trillion, and (2) unemployment is higher than it was before he took office.

The man added $17,000 to the debt on behalf of every living American, and we have a net loss of jobs. That's not easy to accomplish. It means either (1) the situation was unbelievably difficult, or (2) Obama is incompetent.

And I'll disagree when you say we've certainly moved off bottom. Obama will add another $1 trillion to the deficit this year. He has no plans to address social security or medicare shortfalls in a menaingful way. We still have tons of foreclosures and homes underwater.

I fear we haven't even come close to hitting bottom yet.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:49 PM   #3
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The real question is if we've moved from the bottom which we certainly have.

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We are now officially 16 trillion in the hole as of today.The jobs market is the worst its ever been in my lifetime and the housing market is in the same situation...and with the political climate as it is,it can and will get worse.

Its amazing you can say that with a straight face.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:58 PM   #4
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We are now officially 16 trillion in the hole as of today.The jobs market is the worst its ever been in my lifetime and the housing market is in the same situation...and with the political climate as it is,it can and will get worse.

Its amazing you can say that with a straight face.
4 years ago most people thought we were all going to die.

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Old 09-04-2012, 05:08 PM   #5
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4 years ago most people thought we were all going to die.

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And that was mostly fueled by Obama.

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And that was mostly fueled by Obama.
No, it was fueled by an imploding market, a terrified GWB and media reports that our economy was about to shut down...which it was!

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And that was mostly fueled by Obama.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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