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09-04-2012, 06:43 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Originally Posted by BigFish
Well Tagger is a union carpenter so......pretty sure he has a grasp of code. Pretty sure he was not going to make a door out of popsicle sticks and Elmers! I submitted architect quality drawings for our mud room addition complete with measurements the whole nine yards!! Inspector comes for the rough inspection and informs me we need a landing at the top of the stairs outside the back door of the mud room!!! Now I ask you....is it or is it not the inspectors job to look over the drawings that THEY REQUEST" to make sure that everything is as it should be???? It was a simple mud room.....childs play compared to building a complete structure yet the inspector dropped the ball.....could not execute his job to provide me the service for which we do pay the permit fees!!!!!! I wanted to crush his F'in skull the dumb bastard!!!!!!
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I always wondered why they need drawings if they are only going to inspect the work done.
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09-04-2012, 07:14 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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I've been doing commercial building for 27yrs. now ,, Boston Carpenter... Did 12 yrs .. residential / builders before that but everything has changed so much . I have to take a class to renew my Supervisors license. From what I hear everything is changing again . Including building framing ... We are getting greener .. I won't know until I take the course but heard something as easy as framing an outside corner that use to require 4 studs (or 3 and scraps) they want you to do with 2 studs .. wood equal heat loss .. Any work I do now is steel stud ,, screw gun ,, powder activated tools . 58 and I'm still learning .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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09-04-2012, 07:20 PM
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Registered User
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Down here they won't talk to a homeowner at a meeting or in the office....they don't have time for the 40?'s a homeowner ask's...codes have gotten way to complex to take up what little time they do have trying to explain all the do's an dont's as the line is forming out the door....they only want to deal with contractors and their getting good at it pushing out everyone else out the door.
BUY THE CODE BOOK.....it's all in there, then some...THEN get all the new updates as they come out....no such thing as a shack or cottage anymore.
ps....inspectors can and do change their minds..good luck fighting that one.
plywood can be used if it's a single sheet covering an opening,BUT if you butt 2 sheets together to cover an opening,that won't fly.Like a garage door or a big picture window..then you need to spend big bucks for a metal storm panel...
no more leaving kraft faced insulation uncovered in between rafters in a storage space either..has to be covered with sheetrock in case of fire..it goes on an on.$$$$$$$
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09-04-2012, 07:44 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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payed for the permit .. then it's 40 dollars an inspection ..framing ,, insulation ,,,sheet rock ,,, my doors .. plenty of time for that .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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09-04-2012, 07:59 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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We do not get charged for every inspection here in Hanover...just a single fee! Code book, schmode book! You can have the code book and state guidelines...whatever and then the power hungry inspectors make their own rules!!! I have seen it done with Fire Prevention when I was installing oil tanks! Nevermind they are statewide rules and regs......they make up their own!!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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09-05-2012, 08:27 AM
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09-05-2012, 11:42 AM
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Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
We do not get charged for every inspection here in Hanover...just a single fee! Code book, schmode book! You can have the code book and state guidelines...whatever and then the power hungry inspectors make their own rules!!! I have seen it done with Fire Prevention when I was installing oil tanks! Nevermind they are statewide rules and regs......they make up their own!!
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Job security. The more times they have to go back and do follow-up inspections, the more perceived validity there is to their job. While I do believe there is *some* reasonable need for building inspectors, it seems that most are allowed to operate as mavericks that create their own rules and operate on a whim.
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09-05-2012, 02:38 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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Maybe the inspector doesn't like answering questions to home owners but tough cookies,,,.. Homies and Lowes has developed a huge DIY market ,, A lot of people like working on their own house .. A lot of people like to abide by the law and pull permits (dopes). That's the reality of the situation . Tough to make money residential any way. Too many contractors cutting each others throats . At least that is what was happening when I was out there . Are contractors still competing with firemen for jobs ? hated that .
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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09-05-2012, 06:36 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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Originally Posted by Tagger
Maybe the inspector doesn't like answering questions to home owners but tough cookies,,,.. Homies and Lowes has developed a huge DIY market ,, A lot of people like working on their own house .. A lot of people like to abide by the law and pull permits (dopes). That's the reality of the situation . Tough to make money residential any way. Too many contractors cutting each others throats . At least that is what was happening when I was out there . Are contractors still competing with firemen for jobs ? hated that .
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Yo hit the nail on the head Homies and Lowes developed a huge do it yourself market, and too many people now do things half assed, or unsafe. My buddies girlfriend owns a rental in a real nice town. She had a friend redo the front stairs about 3 years ago. Latest tenant just moved out so the were going to rip off the fir, and replace it with Trex. They started the rip and soon found the exterior 4"x6" totally rotted and failing across the front. The person who rebuilt the stairs cut out a section at the top of the stair and replaced it with a single piece of 2"x6" Under the splice was a 2"x4" vertical sitting on a 2"x4" on the flat that was bending under load. This was a collapse waiting to happen. So we ripped it out and started new. My buddy wanted to take all kinds of shortcuts to save some money, but I would not let him, if I was doing it , it was getting done right. Maybe Homies and Lowes should open an area of their stores for code questions....
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