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Old 09-07-2012, 09:42 AM   #1
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Not that any of it really has much of a connection to Malloy, at this point.
I respectfully disagree. Of course, I concede that Malloy wasn't governor before 2011. But ideologically speaking, he's perfectly in sync with all the liberal economic policies that define CT...high taxes, huge government, pouring money into cities, giving unions a blank check, etc...

What I mean is this...if Malloy had been governor for the last 40 years, there's no reason to believe anything would be any different. He's a pure liberal, that's precisely how he governed as mayor of Stamford.

As governor, all Malloy is proposing, and all he has actually implemented, is "more of the same".

Malloy in CT, Christie in NJ, Walker in WI, Kasich in OH, all got elected in 2010 facing horrible economic situations. The other 3 governors made sweeping changes, and results are starting to improve (maybe there's causality there, maybe not). Here in CT, Malloy increased taxes and spending. And all we get is a report saying our economy is worse than previously thought.

There isn't a liberal state in this nation with a thriving economy. Many liberal states realized this in 2010, and turned teh rudder to the right. Here in CT, we kept the car aiming straight for the cliff, and Malloy is accelerating the pace, that's all he is doing.

Here's what just baffles me...exactly how many times does liberal economics need to fail, before liberals concede that there might be a flaw in the logic?

For example...the private sector did away with pensions 20 years ago, because they were simply too expensive. Yet Democrats won't give up that perk for labor unions, and guess what? Those labor perks are doing to local governments exactly what you'd expect, they are putting unreasonable demands on local resources. Conclusion...if pensions are too expensive for the private sector, they are similarly too expensive for the public servents that are compensated using taxes paid by those in the private sector. That's as simple as it gets, it doesn't get any simpler than that. Yet liberals won't cocede that point, they just won't. Somehow, the notion that you cannot spend more than you have, is controversial. I don't get why, I just don't.

This is not hypothetical theory anymore, there's actual data to back it up...by just about any conceivable measure, red states (as a group) are financially better off than blue states. I don't know why liberals bend over backwards to deny that.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:39 PM   #2
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This is not hypothetical theory anymore, there's actual data to back it up...by just about any conceivable measure, red states (as a group) are financially better off than blue states. I don't know why liberals bend over backwards to deny that.
Maybe because they get substantially more federal money than they pay in taxes Your take on Malloy is that he acts like a democrat, so the democrats shouldn't have used him at there convention? Ok, point taken.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:01 PM   #3
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Maybe because they get substantially more federal money than they pay in taxes Your take on Malloy is that he acts like a democrat, so the democrats shouldn't have used him at there convention? Ok, point taken.
My take on Malloy is that, like Obama, he inherited a lousy situation, and chose to double down on rhe policies that created the lousy situation. In the real world, an executive gets fired for that kind of stupidity. In the democratic party, one gets honored.

At the republican convention, we saw speakers (Walker in WI, Kasich in OH, Christie in NJ) who had the common sense to say "we're in horrible shape. We're not going to continue the policies that put us in this position. we're going to make the tough sacrifices to turn this thing around".

Zimmy...exactly how many times do we need to see liberal economic policies fail, before you people admit that you need to go back to the drawing board? How many times?

Zimmy, please show me the data to convince me that the difference between what CT residents pay in federal income taxes, and what we get back from the feds, is not meaningless in terms of our debt.

Our problems in CT are not due to a lack of revenue. we spent like lunatics. I'm sorry if you don't like that reality. But it's reality.
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