US Ambassador killed in Libya

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I think we should turn that desert into glass.

Off topic, but ............................................

*Something a handful of scientists haven't quite wrapped their collective heads around
is the discovery of sand fused into glass
by a nuclear explosion from our distant past....

Apparently this isn't our first rodeo....

[FishermanTim]

Wouldn't it just take the cake if this were a clandestine case of "Wag the Dog", in an attempt to bolster low/bad poll numbers?

You can't tell me that it couldn't be possible, since similar claims were made against Bush (war for oil?).

When the "experts" make claims that the attacks were too coincidental to just be random attacks, and they weren't all-out, "balls to the walls" attacks using conventtional weapons, it makes you wonder what was the purpose of the attacks?

Just food for thought....

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Fishpart

I'd like to recommend a campaign stop for Barak and Joe since they don't have an hour to meet with the Netanyahu

Seriously - you'd want to send our President into an area where Americans who were bravely serving our country were just killed?

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

Wouldn't it just take the cake if this were a clandestine case of "Wag the Dog", in an attempt to bolster low/bad poll numbers?

I agree - the Christian Right had to know that this would inflame tensions in the Muslim world and w/Romney's low poll numbers maybe they thought some dead Americans would help Romney's poll numbers - sad to have that type of thinking.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I agree - the Christian Right had to know that this would inflame tensions in the Muslim world and w/Romney's low poll numbers maybe they thought some dead Americans would help Romney's poll numbers - sad to have that type of thinking.

What did the Christian Right have to do with this to get dragged in to the conversation?

BTW - Got the Cuttyhunk Flask open

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by JohnR

What did the Christian Right have to do with this to get dragged in to the conversation?

I'm going to generalize in all my posts today.

From what I heard the nutjob who produced the video was a Coptic Christian (which means some of their churches will prob. be burned down in Egypt soon) who was associated w/that whack job Terry Jones (I believe that was his name). He is the one who had a day to burn the Koran about a year about?

BTW - Got the Cuttyhunk Flask open

Fill it w/whiskey for the Boy Scout trips

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Fill it w/whiskey for the Boy Scout trips

Paul, first of all, a movie that diaparages a religion is not justifiable reason to commit acts of terrorism.

Second, latest reports suggest that the Libyan attack was a planned operation, and had absolutely nothing to do with the youtube video.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Paul, first of all, a movie that diaparages a religion is not justifiable reason to commit acts of terrorism.

Second, latest reports suggest that the Libyan attack was a planned operation, and had absolutely nothing to do with the youtube video.

And it also appears it was likely not an organic thing from the general population of Libya

[Fishpart]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Seriously - you'd want to send our President into an area where Americans who were bravely serving our country were just killed?

Not really, would put not only him but also a lot of brave patriots who are protecting him in danger...

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I agree - the Christian Right had to know that this would inflame tensions in the Muslim world and w/Romney's low poll numbers maybe they thought some dead Americans would help Romney's poll numbers - sad to have that type of thinking.

Wow how is the Kool Aid
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[justplugit]

So this is how Obama protects American lives, he only attends %50 of daily
intelligent meetings. Instead he reads the briefs, with the last meeting he attended
leading upto 9/11 was 9/5.
Oh that's right, I forgot how intelligent he is. Guess he forgot that truly intelligent
people realize how much they don't know and depend on others to interact with,
to question and learn more from.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

So this is how Obama protects American lives, he only attends %50 of daily intelligent meetings. Instead he reads the briefs, with the last meeting he attended leading upto 9/11 was 9/5.
Oh that's right, I forgot how intelligent he is. Guess he forgot that truly intelligent people realize how much they don't know and depend on others to interact with, to question and learn more from.

It's posts like this that really illustrate how bad a read people have on Obama.

National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor:

The President is among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet. He receives and reads his [Presidential Daily Brief] every day, and most days when he’s at the White House receives a briefing in person. When necessary he probes the arguments, requests more information or seeks alternate analysis. Sometimes that’s via a written assessment and other times it’s in person. {…}

Marc basically wrote a story culled from our public schedule that shows how Marc’s old boss, President Bush, structured his day differently than President Obama. Not exactly breaking news to anyone who has covered this place for the last few years.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

It's posts like this that really illustrate how bad a read people have on Obama.

National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor:

Sorry Spence, but I believe the investagative reporter who obtained his
information from the White House last week showing Obama has only attended %50
of the daily intelligence meetings and his last attended meeting was on 9/5 before 9/11.

How can you say he is putting the safety of the American people first when he READS the briefs %50 of the time?
Rediculous, he should be at every meeting and have probing questions in that meeting everyday.
Symantics or whatever, we are at war.

The time close to the 9/11 anniversary and right up to it has to be a time for extra vigliance yet he was not in attendance asking questions and staying on top of the situations.
Say what you want about Bush,and there is plenty to say, but his first order of business for the day was to attend the intelligence briefing. Kept our citizens safe in the duration of his term. Can't say that about Obama now.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

Wow how is the Kool Aid
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Did you even read the post I quoted?

[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Seriously - you'd want to send our President into an area where Americans who were bravely serving our country were just killed?




I agree - the Christian Right had to know that this would inflame tensions in the Muslim world and w/Romney's low poll numbers maybe they thought some dead Americans would help Romney's poll numbers - sad to have that type of thinking.

Sorry, I must have failed to make it clear: I was talking about Obama!

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

Sorry, I must have failed to make it clear: I was talking about Obama!

That was clear, all except the part about the low poll numbers. They may not be through the roof, but they are the higher of the two candidates as of this point.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

That was clear, all except the part about the low poll numbers. They may not be through the roof, but they are the higher of the two candidates as of this point.

Not according to Rasmussen, whose poll was the most accurate in the 2008 election. Today, Rasmussen has Romney up 48-45.

It saddens me that Obama is polling above 10%. Add $5 trillion to the debt, and he has higher unemployment to show for it. How much more of a failure can one be on the economy?

But Zimmy is right, most polls have Obama ahead. However, from what I have seen, if you read the fine print in most of those polls, they sample more Democrats than Republicans.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Not according to Rasmussen, whose poll was the most accurate in the 2008 election. Today, Rasmussen has Romney up 48-45.

It saddens me that Obama is polling above 10%. Add $5 trillion to the debt, and he has higher unemployment to show for it. How much more of a failure can one be on the economy?

But Zimmy is right, most polls have Obama ahead. However, from what I have seen, if you read the fine print in most of those polls, they sample more Democrats than Republicans.

Jim, you know it is the electoral college that matters. Polls don't mean much at this point. However, you are right about the accuracy of rasmussen and it's polls put Obama at about 310 electoral votes;safely 246, plus in the toss ups he is up in Ohio, Florida, Va, and tied in CO. He's not the one worried by the polls, as was implied in an earlier post.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Raven

*Something a handful of scientists haven't quite wrapped their collective heads around
is the discovery of sand fused into glass
by a nuclear explosion from our distant past....

Apparently this isn't our first rodeo....

Or of course, it could just be from an impact event, not some theory of ancient aliens.....

[nightfighter]

One of the dead was a former Navy SEAL, raised in Winchester, with family now in Woburn. RIP warrior, and prayers for the family.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

One of the dead was a former Navy SEAL, raised in Winchester, with family now in Woburn. RIP warrior, and prayers for the family.

I was aftaid of this, but needed to confirm... It was the son of a fraternity brother. He was also the sniper in the rescue of the Maersk Alabama captain off Somalia. Keep the Doherty family in your thoughts.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

I was aftaid of this, but needed to confirm... It was the son of a fraternity brother. He was also the sniper in the rescue of the Maersk Alabama captain off Somalia. Keep the Doherty family in your thoughts.

I'm so sorry. We worked with SEALs a few times, you have to see those guys in person to appreciate how good they are. They are world-class warriors. I promise you he has been rewarded with a very special spot in what is a very special place. May God's love help the family through this time.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

I was aftaid of this, but needed to confirm... It was the son of a fraternity brother. He was also the sniper in the rescue of the Maersk Alabama captain off Somalia. Keep the Doherty family in your thoughts.

I also read somewhere that he was involved in the rescue of Jessica Lynch as well