I'm Concerned About America(genuinely)

[scottw]

I wonder what % of Rhode Islanders that the Governor of ALL of RI offended with his "pffft" reaction to this...

also...

RI Sen. Whitehouse was deeply offended by Romney's allusion to the percentage of American who might not be accepting of his message .... I think he called them(the remarks) divisive

WIKI
During the passing of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, Whitehouse cautioned that conservative opposition to the bill was moving toward historical incidences of mob violence, saying "Too many colleagues are embarked on a desperate, no-holds-barred mission of propaganda, obstruction and fear. . . . History cautions us of the excesses to which these malignant, vindictive passions can ultimately lead. Tumbrils have rolled through taunting crowds. Broken glass has sparkled in darkened streets. Strange fruit has hung from southern trees." Whitehouse said "birthers," "fanatics," and "people running around in right-wing militia and Aryan support groups "oppose America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009.


huh

just as an aside, I don't think Romney's comments were politically smart for public consumption though they were accurate generally and smart from a tactical standpoint as to the futility of trying to sway a certain percentage that will inevitably vote for O because of what he represents to them....it's reality...it would involve trying to outpander a panderer in his own ball park, better to try to win over the remaining and use the bully pulpit once successful to begin to change the vector...the brush that he usued was a bit broad, but the feigned horror coming from the left and the President who have spent the last 4 years systematically offending and insulting one segment of American society after another is just laughable...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157481/ma...ent-doing.aspx

[justplugit]

Romney's remarks were right on, people always vote their pocket books
and if they're getting something for free it's only human nature to keep
it going.
Problem is we are going broke and they can't see that soon there will
be nothing left for anybody. They are not willing to sacfice to save
the goose that lays the golden egg.
They want it all on the backs of the people that work hard and save.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Romney's remarks were right on, people always vote their pocket books and if they're getting something for free it's only human nature to keep it going.

Like my father who paid into Medicare and SS all his life now to be getting the benefits he was promised?

How is this "getting something for free"?

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Like my father who paid into Medicare and SS all his life now to be getting the benefits he was promised?

How is this "getting something for free"?

-spence

My kids won't have it unless something changes. Just tell your Dad about how promises are meant to be broken.... funny promises mean something now.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Like my father who paid into Medicare and SS all his life now to be getting the benefits he was promised?

How is this "getting something for free"?

-spence

Spence, you just don't get it. Romney clearly did not say (nor was he implying) that people who pay into SS and Medicare aren't entitled to those benefits. He was talking about people who pay no federal income taxes, yet continue to enjoy the benefits provided by federal services.

And even though Romney didn't say it, I'll say it. You dad, of course, is getting a lot of Medicare benefit for free. Why? Because (assuming he needs an average amount of medical care in old age, and assuming he had average income during his working years) he is getting astronomically more in benefits than he paid in premiums. The difference (and this is what liberals seem to struggle with) is paid for by people who are working today.

Either you don't get this, or you don't want to get it.

Let me use a bit of hyperbole to make a point. Let's say Medicare is aprogram where you pay $1 a year to the feds while working, and in return, you get free healthcare for life when you retire. Sounds great! No one would object to this. Except it does not work when you have a demographic avalance like the Baby Boomers - larger numbers of retirees, who live longer in retirement than previous retirees, and who will need significantly more expensive care than previous retirees.

Conservatives admit the plan is broken. Liberals say "watch out for those mean conservatives! They want old people to die in the street!"

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

Like my father who paid into Medicare and SS all his life now to be getting the benefits he was promised?

How is this "getting something for free"?

-spence

Ask your Dad, would he rather have invested that SS money himself
over all these years or paid into the system that is going broke.
Spence, you are paying into it now and at your age when the time comes
it won't be there for you. But thanks anyway for contributing to my SS check.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by justplugit

But thanks anyway for contributing to my SS check.

So I guess your one of the 47% then, right?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

So I guess your one of the 47% then, right?

Nope, I had no choice, I had to pay into it.
It's a Pyramid/Ponzi scheme.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Nope, I had no choice, I had to pay into it.
It's a Pyramid/Ponzi scheme.

Medicare? Medicade?

If you aren't paying income tax, and are getting services, don't you fall into that category Romney outlined then?

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Nope, I had no choice, I had to pay into it.
It's a Pyramid/Ponzi scheme.

Jplug, you are in the group he was talking about, like it or not. How many of the 47% are in the same boat? Well, the answer is out there and it is about 10% of all Americans. Exclude those people and it is 37%. So what about his statement was actually true?

[FishermanTim]

Originally Posted by spence

Like my father who paid into Medicare and SS all his life now to be getting the benefits he was promised?

How is this "getting something for free"?

-spence

It's not, but what about the millions of "undocument immigrants" that are given welfare benefits like they are giving out free samples at Costco?