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Old 09-19-2012, 08:47 PM   #1
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Where is the tipping point? Its clear that Romney is right on about a certain percentage of Americans having their hands out to take all they can and contribute nothing. Is it 47%? I don't know (I hope its not 47% yet!).

The big issue is where is the tipping point at which point the country comes tumbling down because there are too few putting into the pot and too many taking out. This election has no principles. Its one guy going after the votes of the "takers" and promising more and more to attract more and more taker votes. Its about another guy going after the "haves"saying there are too many takers and if we don't get more putting into the pot there will be nothing to take out for anybody.

So at what percent of takers does the country collapse? Surely if everyone stops giving and everyone is taking the game is over. Romney says its now 47% but whatever it actually is , right now we are teetering. Is it 55%? Is it 65%? When does the house of cards tumble because people are taking out more that the rest can put back in? There is a tipping point. Only the biggest of idiots would deny that at some point there will not be enough to satisfy everyone with their hands out to take from the country. At what percent is that tipping point?

We are all betting on where that tipping point is in the next election. Will we reach it in the next 4 years? Is the probability of reaching it higher if Obama or Romney is President?

I am appalled that everything is about getting elected or reelected. There is no more right , wrong , no more doing what's good or bad for the country. Its all about doing whatever is nescessary to win the next election. I am tired of going to the polls and voting against the lesser of two bad choices. I want to be able to vote "for" someone for a change.

Unfortunately those with their hands out are or soon will be in the majority. We are on the road to socialism. Wealth will be redistributed. Everybody will be equal because we will all have nothing unless the government gives it to us. Unless we change direction before we hit that tipping point , there will be no turning back until the system collapses.

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Old 09-19-2012, 09:49 PM   #2
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I am appalled that everything is about getting elected or reelected. There is no more right , wrong , no more doing what's good or bad for the country. Its all about doing whatever is nescessary to win the next election. I am tired of going to the polls and voting against the lesser of two bad choices. I want to be able to vote "for" someone for a change.
I am too SH, as I believe a lot of Americans are. The Constitution was written on
the basis that it would be carried out by Statesmen serving only for the reason of
what's best for America.
Where can you find such people? I know of a couple at the local and state level
but they could never make it to the top without selling their souls.
Until a true Statesman comes to the forefront, if ever, the only choice that I see
is a vote for a candidate for a large overbaring government that stifles our liberty or one who proports a smaller efficent one.

While the Mid East burns, our President is on a comedy show and 2 fund raisers
and Congress will be leaving for vacation on Friday. True servants.

" Choose Life "
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:10 AM   #3
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The big issue is where is the tipping point at which point the country comes tumbling down because there are too few putting into the pot and too many taking out. .
The tipping point will be sometime determined by one thing...the Baby Boomers. Starting January 1 of 2010, 10,000 Baby Boomers a day turn 65, and are thus eligible for social security and Medicare. 10,000 a day. That will continue for 15 years.

I haven't heard Obama admit that drastic changes are needed. ALl he talks about is tweaking tax rates on the rich, which is practically meaningless.

Ryan proposed a plan to reduce Medicare costs bt $4 trilion.

That's a clear difference. Obama/Biden will obviously continue to kick the can down the road, Romney/Ryan wil try to do something (no one knows if their plan will work, though).
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