no media bias

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, has it ever occurred to you why Foxnews is the #1 cable channel? Because if you are liberal, every other news station, besides Foxnews, will stroke your fur. For those who don't want to get just the liberal slant on things, there is one TV station to choose from. One. Foxnews.

Foxnews is the #1 cable channel, but it's audience is a small minority of the population. Many other folks get news that is biased.

Does Foxnews have a conservative slant? Absolutely. Is it the mirror-image of MSNBC? Not even close. CNN leans further to the left than Foxnews leans to the right.

Foxnews isn't a far-right station (though it has hosts like Hannity who are). Foxnews just appears so far-right, because when everyone else is 100 miles to the left, center-right appears far to the right.

How do they say, if you eat your own #^&#^&#^&#^& long enough you'll think it's ice cream?

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

How do they say, if you eat your own #^&#^&#^&#^& long enough you'll think it's ice cream?

-spence

You stated that Foxnews was #1. I told you why.

On the liberal networks, I heard Al Gore suggest that Obama got creamed in the debate because of the altitude. On another network, I heard Michael Eric Dyson (or whatever his name is) say that Obama got creamed because he was forced to debate meekly, or he runs the risk of being called an "angry black man". That's a guy who teaches at Georgetown who said that. It must be great being a white kid in that class.

There is a segment of the American population (sadly it is less than 100%, and you certainly are not in that segment) that doesn't want opinions delivered solely by people who are madly in love with Obama.

Bill O'Reilly gives Obama high marks for killing terrorists, and horrible marks for overseeing the economy. That's fair, not indicative of blind support of any one ideology. And most important, that synopsis is also supported by facts and common sense.

Sean Hannity is thoughtless, a blind ideologue, someone who doesn't need to tell you what he thinks, because I already know what he thinks on every issue, before he says it. Hannity is that predictable. He's exactly like you. Except he has blindly stumbled upon more right answers than you will ever see in a million years.

[justplugit]

So back to my original question to Spence.

Where do I find this unbiased news you speak of.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

So back to my original question to Spence.

Where do I find this unbiased news you speak of.

The biggest thing is to focus on reporting and less on opinion.

Sure there are examples of bias here and there but I think most news outlets (including FOX and MSNBC) offer pretty reliable reporting even if they have very biased opinion.

There also is a difference in reporting that reflects a cultural perspective that I wouldn't necessarily consider a bias in a negative way. The Economist can offer a very rational and refreshing perspective on Domestic events. Even reading a Canadian newspaper can give a very different viewpoint on world events.

Any problem is best studied from multiple angles to truly understand it.

The problem with media today is that it's too easy for people to simply look for sources that reinforce existing beliefs without challenging themselves.

-spence

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You stated that Foxnews was #1. I told you why.

You made a circular argument.

FOX News is #1 because they were first to market with a differentiated product. Sensationalized programming delivered by high caliber talent.

Not because their viewers are seeking a fair and balanced perspective. Interestingly enough their ratings have climbed during the past 4 years in which their reporting on Obama has been negative 6:1.

The Master Character Narratives in Campaign 2012 | Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ)

I used to watch O'Riley every night years ago. FOX has shifted so far to the Right now it's as unwatchable as the MSNBC evening lineup has become.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You made a circular argument. FOX News is #1 because they were first to market with a differentiated product. Sensationalized programming delivered by high caliber talent. Not because their viewers are seeking a fair and balanced perspective. Interestingly enough their ratings have climbed during the past 4 years in which their reporting on Obama has been negative 6:1. The Master Character Narratives in Campaign 2012 | Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ) I used to watch O'Riley every night years ago. FOX has shifted so far to the Right now it's as unwatchable as the MSNBC evening lineup has become. -spence

Spence bashes Toxnews, I'm sure we're all shocked.

Spence, since you criticized Romney for proposing to cut entitlement programs, we are all STILL waiting for you to tell us what the alternative is?

The best you could come up with is "no one knows what to do".

You're boring, Spence. Thoughtless, utterly predictable, and boring.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence bashes Toxnews, I'm sure we're all shocked.

Spence, since you criticized Romney for proposing to cut entitlement programs, we are all STILL waiting for you to tell us what the alternative is?

The best you could come up with is "no one knows what to do".

You're boring, Spence. Thoughtless, utterly predictable, and boring.

Let's see...

You avoided the actual discussion - Check

You tossed around insults - Check

You declared victory - whoa?

What's happened?

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Let's see... You avoided the actual discussion - Check You tossed around insults - Check You declared victory - whoa? What's happened? -spence

I didn't avoid anything, I stated the obvious - that there is a clear liberal bias in the media, as well as academia. If you don't admit that, and I know that you won't/can't, that's your issue. I just don't get why you want to go through life with your head buried so deep in the sand.

You're the one who dodged an older issue. You said that Romney's experience as CEO of Bain, was not anything that made him qualified to be POTUS. So I asked you, when Obama was running in 2008, what was on his resume that was a better qualification to be POTUS than Romney'sexecutive experience? A fair question. And as usual, all I got for a response was chirping crickets.

[justplugit]

When it comes to legitimate questions that he can't answer, Spence waits till the thread turns the page and hopes everyone will forget what the quetion was.
Great political move.