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[piemma]

Originally Posted by paradoxjim

As rec guys, do we really need a 2 fish bag limit? Seriously, 1 legal fish provides more than a couple of meals for my family (only 3 of us) and I don't need to keep too many fish over the course of a year to stock my freezer. I'd be good with a 1 fish limit; I never harvest more than 1 at a time.

We have been saying exactly this for years. 1, 36" fish. Think of all the 28 to 34" fish that would breed once or twice or 3 times. Personally I caught well over 300 fish that are what is called "keepers" this year. So far, I have kept 3. One more for New Years eve dinner and that's it. I see people at the canal kill 2, 28" fish and walk away thinking they are heros. They didn't live thru the moratorium nor do they remember the late 80s when if you caught 3 schoolies (on the mainland) it made news everywhere.

I think we are headed down hill. Not as rapidly as in the last disaster as there are more regs in place but we are seeing a repeat of the pattern. Less little fish. More big fish.
I am working on an article that talks of making the Striper a game fish. The State of Florida did it with Snook as they were almost wiped out. Now there is an extremely healthy population of Snook that yield millions of dollars in recreational fishing. It wasn't popular when it was enacted and I'm sure that if the Striper were to be made a game fish with no netting or commercial rod and reel season there would be an uproar. Never the less, in the long term, it may be the right thing for the survival of the species.

[BatesBCheatin]

Originally Posted by piemma

I see people at the canal kill 2, 28" fish and walk away thinking they are heros. They didn't live thru the moratorium nor do they remember the late 80s when if you caught 3 schoolies (on the mainland) it made news everywhere.

I see that, and I also see the old timers (who were part of the reason of the 80's decline) do the same thing which makes it all the more despicable IMO.
I see them with dual keepers to 30lb+ fish especially during the spring run - every day riding around with bass on their bikes looking for recognition. Selfish aholes the lot of them! Who knows what they do with these fish... Sell them, give them away, throw them away - I have no idea. Whatever they do with them, doesn't change the fact that these guys suck at life.

[piemma]

Young or old, it doesn't make any difference. Killing 2 fish a day is just plain stupid.

[1dozenraw]

Originally Posted by piemma

Young or old, it doesn't make any difference. Killing 2 fish a day is just plain stupid.

Yup.

[Dick Durand]

Lowest YOY due to the weather - now isn't that a convenient oversimplification . . . not pollution. insufficient nutrition, disease, overharvesting . . . simply the weather.

[WoodyCT]

Originally Posted by 1dozenraw

Yup.

I agree Kev- Taking fish time and again is stupid...

But then again so are the hordes of idiots who can't tie a clinch knot but by using cell phones and social networks can stay on the fish and kill kill kill.
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[LINESIDES]

I don’t even eat seafood. Can’t stand eating any fish.
Read the report.
I have released all of my fish in the last 25 years.
One left out it could be contributed to terrorism.
Quote: Eric Durell, leader of the department's striped bass survey, said newly hatched larvae are particularly sensitive to environmental conditions such as the flow, clarity and temperature of the water. In past years when ample rain fell around spawning season, the number of juvenile fish found was higher, he noted, but this year saw near-record low flows in bay tributaries .Un-quote.

In an in home fish tank when breeding fish the eggs depend on the parent fish fanning the eggs with their fins. This is to keep a steady flow of water over them to insure a good hatch.
Salmon and stripers depend on the flow of the current to hatch their eggs.
If we have little or no rain thus one gets poor fresh water flow over the eggs. High water temp's will kill them to.

I did not mean if it sounded to some as a simply the crises.

I have way to much respect for the fish.

I am sure folks could find many reasons why fish could be in decline!

I am not a fan of brave key board bashers!!!

It was simply my two cents.

The biggest contribution one could make to the fish (Stripers) would be not to pass on the when’s, the where’s, the how’s too’s of the taking Stripers.
However some can’t resist the temptation or trying to show others how much they know about fishing Stripers.
I have fished with my partner the one who took me under his wings for 26 years.
He is a person with knowledge of taking Stripers one could only imagine.
In the mid fifties to early sixties three on the best of their time took him under their wing to share knowledge with this kid.
There are things he will not share with me to this day about taking Stripers and I am ok with that.
What we are shown, when we are shown the technique, where’s, when's, we are sworn to secrecy.
I am grateful to him for what he has shared with me over the years.
My life of fishing Stripers with him have been like fishing stories out of a fishing magazine one would read about.
One cant imaging the wonders I have seen fishing Stripers with him.

All my fish go back with a kiss on there forehead, I look them in their eyes and tell them to be more careful the next time.

[piemma]

Originally Posted by LINESIDES

I don’t even eat seafood. Can’t stand eating any fish.
Read the report.
I have released all of my fish in the last 25 years.
One left out it could be contributed to terrorism.
Quote: Eric Durell, leader of the department's striped bass survey, said newly hatched larvae are particularly sensitive to environmental conditions such as the flow, clarity and temperature of the water. In past years when ample rain fell around spawning season, the number of juvenile fish found was higher, he noted, but this year saw near-record low flows in bay tributaries .Un-quote.

In an in home fish tank when breeding fish the eggs depend on the parent fish fanning the eggs with their fins. This is to keep a steady flow of water over them to insure a good hatch.
Salmon and stripers depend on the flow of the current to hatch their eggs.
If we have little or no rain thus one gets poor fresh water flow over the eggs. High water temp's will kill them to.

I did not mean if it sounded to some as a simply the crises.

I have way to much respect for the fish.

I am sure folks could find many reasons why fish could be in decline!

I am not a fan of brave key board bashers!!!

It was simply my two cents.

The biggest contribution one could make to the fish (Stripers) would be not to pass on the when’s, the where’s, the how’s too’s of the taking Stripers.
However some can’t resist the temptation or trying to show others how much they know about fishing Stripers.
I have fished with my partner the one who took me under his wings for 26 years.
He is a person with knowledge of taking Stripers one could only imagine.
In the mid fifties to early sixties three on the best of their time took him under their wing to share knowledge with this kid.
There are things he will not share with me to this day about taking Stripers and I am ok with that.
What we are shown, when we are shown the technique, where’s, when's, we are sworn to secrecy.
I am grateful to him for what he has shared with me over the years.
My life of fishing Stripers with him have been like fishing stories out of a fishing magazine one would read about.
One cant imaging the wonders I have seen fishing Stripers with him.

All my fish go back with a kiss on there forehead, I look them in their eyes and tell them to be more careful the next time.

This a great post. Somewhat unrealistic but still good. No one will release everything they catch unless they are like you and don't like eating fish. That's not the point though.
Killing a fish for the table is a God given right and shouldn't be discouraged. Killing 2, 28" fish every day and freezing 100 pounds of filets every season most surely should be discouraged. That's why we need 1 fish, 36" a day as a Eastern seaboard regulation. Until we set realistic expectations as to what the bag limits should be, we will have this problem. Again I sight what happened in Florida with Snook. They got it right and now the species is thriving.