So heres to 4 more years

[spence]

I think the GOP needs to take a long look in the mirror.

Romney lost for the same reason McCain lost. They bowed to the party loons instead of just being themselves and talking from the heart.

The GOP needs some intervention.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the GOP needs to take a long look in the mirror.

Romney lost for the same reason McCain lost. They bowed to the party loons instead of just being themselves and talking from the heart.

The GOP needs some intervention.

-spence

I have to say i agree.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the GOP needs to take a long look in the mirror.

Romney lost for the same reason McCain lost. They bowed to the party loons instead of just being themselves and talking from the heart.

The GOP needs some intervention.

-spence

I think both parties need to take a long look in the mirror. At some point in time somebody has to put partisan politics aside and work together to get anything done That will have Substantive value to our Society.

At this point in time. I feel like people are more swayed by whether or not a candidate is red or blue. I'm not talking about people to educate themselves with the issues. But those that get their views from the nightly news. Regardless of whether or not it's Fox ABC NBC CNN whomever. We as a people would be better served If our candidates were not held to party lines and could vote based on beliefs.
I honestly thought we had that with Scott Brown the way he voted he could've been Democrat or Republican. But he got beat. So it's more the same on the hill now.
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[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

I think both parties need to take a long look in the mirror. At some point in time somebody has to put partisan politics aside and work together to get anything done That will have Substantive value to our Society.

At this point in time. I feel like people are more swayed by whether or not a candidate is red or blue. I'm not talking about people to educate themselves with the issues. But those that get their views from the nightly news. Regardless of whether or not it's Fox ABC NBC CNN whomever. We as a people would be better served If our candidates were not held to party lines and could vote based on beliefs.
I honestly thought we had that with Scott Brown the way he voted he could've been Democrat or Republican. But he got beat. So it's more the same on the hill now.
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I have followed the banter on Facebook and I cannot believe the hatred and misinformation from many of my educated friends. Its like the National Enquirer is running the country.

[BigFish]

Yeah I see it too RI.....people calling other people terrible things because of the choice they made! This is a Democracy after all....we all have a choice and need to respect others choices not belittle them for it if we do not agree!

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I have followed the banter on Facebook and I cannot believe the hatred and misinformation from many of my educated friends. Its like the National Enquirer is running the country.

It has been kind of funny my favorite quote of the day

"My Uterus is safe for another 4 years"

As if a band of Ninjas was climbing into her birth canal to attack reproductive organs and Obama fought them off lol.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

It has been kind of funny my favorite quote of the day

"My Uterus is safe for another 4 years"

As if a band of Ninjas was climbing into her birth canal to attack reproductive organs and Obama fought them off lol.
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It wasn't going to be an issue and likely will never be an issue but if Republicans can never find a way to stop shooting themselves in the foot, they will never appeal to enough to get over the top.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by JohnR

It wasn't going to be an issue and likely will never be an issue but if Republicans can never find a way to stop shooting themselves in the foot, they will never appeal to enough to get over the top.

I disagree... Romney would have had 1-3 justices to replace on the SCOTUS... that could have meant serious changes in many social issues....

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I disagree... Romney would have had 1-3 justices to replace on the SCOTUS... that could have meant serious changes in many social issues....

And I don't think the most contentious issues: Roe-v-Wade, would get overturned in the most basic sense.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I disagree... Romney would have had 1-3 justices to replace on the SCOTUS... that could have meant serious changes in many social issues....

Which is why many social issues should be left to the states, not the Federal Government. 1-3 justices like Ginsberg, Soto-Mayor, and Kagan could mean serious changes in social issues as well. Depends on whose ox is being gored. You're all fine with SCOTUS imposing its will on the people as long as you like what is being imposed. But, oh no, forbid that it takes away some of your cherished rights. If Roe v. Wade were overturned, that does not mean that abortion, or other "rights" that you like would be denied. It would, as constitutionally prescribed, allow the people of the various states to decide.

Deciding to change the structure of our government and replace inalienable rights with centrally authoritatian government granted rights and allowing also that government to totally decide which rights are granted and which are not, merely so that some pet social issues are made universally manadatory is not only silly but the very dictatorship that you fear.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by JohnR

It wasn't going to be an issue and likely will never be an issue but if Republicans can never find a way to stop shooting themselves in the foot, they will never appeal to enough to get over the top.

I agree whole heartedly kind of a ridiculous argument when you can not get congress to pass a budget. Do people truly feel they will be able write legislation that will get through the house and the senate signed into law by the POTUS and then get past the SCOTUS. Really? But Rachel Maddow said....

As far as Conservatives shooting them selves in the foot you are correct. To be viewed in a positive light as a conservative you have to be politically correct and never have said anything disparaging about any group ever. Otherwise you get crucified. Look at the legs the Binder comment had. By the same token Biden says they will put you back in chains and it is barely an issue? Sign of the times.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the GOP needs to take a long look in the mirror.

I'm pretty sure that was what was said after the 2008 election.

and I agree....

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the GOP needs to take a long look in the mirror.

Romney lost for the same reason McCain lost. They bowed to the party loons instead of just being themselves and talking from the heart.

The GOP needs some intervention.

-spence

I've been saying this since the start of the primaries when Ron Paul and his followers were being dismissed. From what I've seen reported, Gary Johnson received more votes than any previous Libertarian candidate. The people I personally know who voted for him did so because there was no chance they'd vote for Obama but couldn't justify a vote for Romney.

The GOP completely alienated a voting base that very-well could have won them the election, even with the pathetic candidate they put out there.

[Typhoon]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I've been saying this since the start of the primaries when Ron Paul and his followers were being dismissed. From what I've seen reported, Gary Johnson received more votes than any previous Libertarian candidate. The people I personally know who voted for him did so because there was no chance they'd vote for Obama but couldn't justify a vote for Romney.

The GOP completely alienated a voting base that very-well could have won them the election, even with the pathetic candidate they put out there.

I'm a huge Ron Paul guy (fiscal conservative, social libertarian)and I refused to vote for Mitt. (not that a Massachusetts vote mattered).

What I cannot stand is that the blatant liar Liawatha and the complete crook Tierney were voted into office in Massachusetts because they had a D next to their names.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the GOP needs to take a long look in the mirror.


-spence

Time to lose the golf tan and get to work ... I don't fish when I have a job to do ..