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Old 11-17-2012, 08:50 AM   #1
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Back then, people WANTED to work for pay, not so much these days.........


There is your hate Spence !
Growing up my grandfather preached to me of how back then how embarrassed people were if they needed help or a hand out.
Today a handout is EXPECTED !
Today we also pay into systems like TDI that are there if we need them. I wouldn't have any problem taking unemployment benefits if I needed them.

As is indicated in the chart posted, the increase in food stamp use under Obama is primarily a reflection of a massive recession and job market that's shifting into a different mode. Obama did expand benefits but I believe that's going to expire soon.

Interestingly though, Food Stamp use under Bush was also climbing dramatically faster than previous administrations, even as Bush was cutting taxes to record lows.

Moody's did an interesting study on Food Stamp's as economic stimulus.

Food stamps offer best stimulus - study - Jan. 29, 2008

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Old 11-17-2012, 09:14 AM   #2
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Moody's did an interesting study on Food Stamp's as economic stimulus.

Food stamps offer best stimulus - study - Jan. 29, 2008

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right, government borrowing money to provide foodstamps, unemployment benefits that never end and welfare in general are great ways to stimulate a stagnent economy.....we should just borrow more and put everyone on the dole ...wait...that appears to be what we ARE doing...

hey, if you follow that article to the end there are some links listed and highlighted...the first is "5 Signs of Dimensia"...I think they're all contained in that article

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Old 11-17-2012, 09:16 AM   #3
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right, government borrowing money to provide foodstamps, unemployment benefits that never end and welfare are great ways to stimulate a stagnent economy.....we should just borrow more and put everyone on the dole ...wait...that appears to be what we ARE doing...
Typical irrational response.

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Typical irrational response.

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irrational???

you just posted "Food stamps offer best stimulus"

too funny
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irrational???

you just posted "Food stamps offer best stimulus"

too funny
Read it.

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Old 11-17-2012, 09:55 AM   #6
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I did, it measures the most effective sugar rush if you are going to dump borrowed money into the economy....we've had massive "stimulus", a couple of recovery summers and I believe we just found out that July was a new record for new Food Stampees- long after Bush and the so-called recovery......I guess the economy should be singing base on your theory, but it's teetering and growth in anemic....

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Pa...amp-recipients

“For Every Person Added to Jobs Rolls Since January 2009, 75 People Added To Food Stamp Rolls.”
http://www.infowars.com/food-stamp-g...-job-creation/


"This time the USDA delayed its release nine days past the semi-official deadline, far past the election, and until Friday night to report August foodstamp data. One glance at the number reveals why: at 47.1 million, this was not only a new all time record, but the monthly increase of 420,947 from July was the biggest monthly increase in one year."

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I did, it measures the most effective sugar rush if you are going to dump borrowed money into the economy....we've had massive "stimulus", a couple of recovery summers and I believe we just found out that 2011 was a new record for new Food Stampees- long after Bush and the so-called recovery......I guess the economy should be singing base on your theory, but it's teetering and growth in anemic....
Huh? Nobody is stating that food stamps are a fix, rather when isolated they offer a better return...

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