Ok cool thanks, my friend wanted me to duplicate some for him he was able to borrow a giant jointed that measures 10 1/2" I wasn't sure if it used the same 1/4" diameter tailweights as the one mentioned in this thread. I remeber reading in one of Frank's books he mentions a 12 or 13" giant jointed which had me confused.
I spun up one today out of awc, still want to try turning one out of wrc I think the white cedar will be a little overweight. The original he has weighs 3.48oz unrigged. I'll be lobbing these from a breachway using an allstar 1208 which should be able to handle the weight.
