tell me something I don't know - seals & the cape

[Guppy]

Feeling a little guilty after reading some of these post and realizing what I took for granted all these years. Now that I've entered the ranks of part time retirement I'm making sure my army of grandkids doesn't do the same.

So what's wrong with me buying a spinning rod for my latest 2 month old grandson? women!.... Gup

[Billwetzel]

Montauk is next in line for this nonsense!

[saltfly]

Originally Posted by l.i.fish.in.vt

Larry,''loose lips sinks ships''.in the last 5 years i haven't had the need to drive more than 10 miles from my trailer to catch fish at night.some areas that use to be productive are waste lands while other areas are quite productive.if your sole purpose is to catch bigger fish than the outer cape is a waste of time.i would rather cast into the night by myself and a good freind or 2 than stand shoulder to shoulder with the masses.to each there own

John,I just got off the phone after talking with T.C for over an hour.He told me about Mikey posting this and your input so I'll toss my .02 into the fray.We didn't see each other at all this year because I was totally fed up with the entire place.I had no desire to drive from Orleans to those "quiet" places to fish.Even at night.The traffic,arrogant people,rediculous rules,closeures,etc,etc.I thought I'd be buried on the Cape.27+years living and working there[and Nantucket some summers].The seals were the final "nail".I adapted to the lies from the Seashore about the birds and driving on the beach.I walked Monomoy[north and south Is.] for miles with a flyrod it was heaven on the flats.Nauset was great.Especially when the birds closed parts of the beach[lazy people couldn't drive] it gave up some great fish,peace and quiet too.most of the seals stayed south in Chatham near the southway[closed now5yrs].When that closed up the seals moved north in huge numbers.That really did in Nauset then it moved bigtime north.The seals were in ptwn but not in the masses.Now all of the area is effected heavily.Staying in the dune shacks on Peaked Hill was a refuge but now that's changing and not for the better.The entire Cape experience for me atleast has been destroyed.Finally said "that's it....I'm gettin the f*** out of here".Took a weekend the 1st of August and drove up to Maine.Two days of house looking bought a place in Rangeley.Never fished rivers,streams,etc. for brook trout,browns,l.locked salmon.Fished the beaches from Neponset to Nantucket for over 50 yrs.I needed the change thank you seals.


Owen Nichols.....A group of 15 fisherman[comm&rec.] met with him and a Ms Sette[center for coastal studies,ptwn] at the Nauset R&G club a couple of years ago at their request to possibly formulate a study program with vollenteers from the rec. and comm. fishers.We tossed around different ideas and how a study could be created.Some of the folks were from a big fishing club on the cape and it was suggested that ctr for coastal studies come to a meeting and further the prosess of setting up a study.Most of the group at the R&G club made it known that there were too many seals and it was definately effecting the fishing already.Of course the next issue was the "funding" for the study.......................HMMMMMMM.Well...I waited over a month to "hear" from Mr. Nichols.3 calls and 2 e-mails................................crickets!!!!! NOTHING is going to happen for a looooong time.At 62 yrs young that's it....I'm gone.Anybody want to buy a house in Orleans????

OH!!! Proffessor. 19" of snow on the ground and 6-12" tomorrow.Snowshoeing through the woods in the morning for a couple of hours.Then down into the flytying/rod mancave to work on a 5wt. flyrod and tie some drys,streamers,and nymphs.Heaven..........

[MAKAI]

Nuff said !
My ashes were going to be put into the waters there.
No F'n way now !
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[clambo]

There is no question that the seals are impacting fishing. I feel that there will be no action until the coliform levels force public health to close beaches to swimming. When that happens and all those tourists dollars go to area's that have swimming then and only then will action be taken. Sad but true!

[bostonharbor]

They absolutey do not care.Public health is the least of their concerns.
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[Guppy]

Geeeeeeees!
front page of my Sunday paper!

Muskeget Island: Largest gray seal breeding colony in US | CapeCodOnline.com

Gup

[OLD GOAT]

I guess every fourth grade dropout knows the seal are destroying the environment but the scientists that work with salaries or grant money need to study --just a little bit longer- after all we must be sure that the fourth grade dropouts are correct and that we get a few more grants.

[Karl F]

sealsurge083012

old news really

the last meeting I attended the spin was not to worry, the seals will INCREASE tourons to the area, to come see the cute pups frolic on the sand.. from where?...raised observation decks... the whole thing is a friggin joke..

saltfly, you got it right.. good for you.. (wish I could pull up roots and go as well.. too many people & rules here now, and less freedom to do what we once did) ... drive by your old place everyday... you.. (or the RE agent) left the front light on ...any bites on it yet?.. spring's comin'..and folks from away will get the fever.. it will go quick...maybe a seal/bird lover will get it!

[saltfly]

Originally Posted by Karl F

sealsurge083012

old news really

the last meeting I attended the spin was not to worry, the seals will INCREASE tourons to the area, to come see the cute pups frolic on the sand.. from where?...raised observation decks... the whole thing is a friggin joke..

saltfly, you got it right.. good for you.. (wish I could pull up roots and go as well.. too many people & rules here now, and less freedom to do what we once did) ... drive by your old place everyday... you.. (or the RE agent) left the front light on ...any bites on it yet?.. spring's comin'..and folks from away will get the fever.. it will go quick...maybe a seal/bird lover will get it!

Hi Karl.The "little lady"s daughter is the listing agent who lives about a mile away so she goes by and changes the lights periodically.There are quite afew showings but no offers yet.Thanks for keeping an eye on the old place.

I'm looking out my floor to ceiling glass window at the snowmobilers heading to the lake.we'll be heading out around noon to snowshoe through the woods looking for antler sheds in the cedar and balsm groves next to my house.We've[she] found one set so far.Oh...its -4 with a 20 n/w wind and sunny.Not a MOONBAT in sight!!!

[Karl F]

sounds like Heaven!

[l.i.fish.in.vt]

Karl,the grass is always greenier on the otherside.still no place on the eastcoast where i'd rather be than Truro.the only reason i am still in VT is because of the skiing.

[saltfly]

Originally Posted by l.i.fish.in.vt

Karl,the grass is always greenier on the otherside.still no place on the eastcoast where i'd rather be than Truro.the only reason i am still in VT is because of the skiing.

John I agree..................I'd move back to Truro in a minute but the prices are out of my league by a large margin.That IS the only town left with peace and quiet.When I had to sell my place in Truro in 05 and move to Orleans it just ruined everything[for me].

[l.i.fish.in.vt]

Bob,even renting a campersite is getting expensive in Truro,with the tax rate in my area, its getting to the point were i am wondering where i can afford to live. never going to retire since i have always been self employed,other than the tackle shop.Well enjoy this cold spell.skied this morning a balmy -4 at the top,

[Karl F]

no arguement John.. Truro is the ONLY place left on the cape, that even resembles what my definition of it is.. downside is the dough.. it is a rich mans town now... they will drive/buy out the natives out over time.. it is also over regulated, like the rest of the cape. too many downsides here. I'm stuck for a while tho.. camp while you can.. I have read that there is a time coming soon when that ends up there.

[Karl F]

property taxes in Orleans.. (and the rest of the cape, for that matter) will soon explode.. triple to quadruple in short order.. there is no way around it...again.. caused by too many regulations..local, state, and federal..

[saltfly]

Originally Posted by l.i.fish.in.vt

Bob,even renting a campersite is getting expensive in Truro,with the tax rate in my area, its getting to the point were i am wondering where i can afford to live. never going to retire since i have always been self employed,other than the tackle shop.Well enjoy this cold spell.skied this morning a balmy -4 at the top,

Good morning John;Ya it was -8 and sweeper snow at 7 a.m. walking the beagle around the loop.27 deer,4 yoties,2 turkeys,1 red fox seen as we walked.No antler sheds yesterday.we'll head out[snowshoes] around 11 to look for sheds.Then back around 2-3 to tie salmon streamers in the window and watch the sun go down.

Big snowmobile weekend up here on Rangeley Lake.SNODEO weekend brings in many hundreds of snowmobilers to town for races,stunts[pros],fireworks,fires on the lakes,ice fishing derby on Haley pond[in town].

Tonys computer is in Steves hand as of Saturday.He got a virus he couldn't shake.Steve is going to fix it so he can retrieve photos and videos too.I guess he hasn't been able to for a while.

[Billwetzel]

Hi John-- I'll up this weejkend.. If my back holds out Ill shoot ya a line, and maybe we can do a few runs?