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You're right...we should do nothing and just let natural order take over...
-spence
Whoa . . . wasssup? I try to agree withyall about "doing something" about bombs and you get all sarcastic on me. All right, all right, so I was being a little sarc myself, but I thought it was funny. Bomb control? C'mon . . . not even a smile?
Oh yeah, the natural order. I wasn't aware that nature had lost control yet. I believe that it is "natural" to want to "do something" about random violence, even though, according to the most progressive among us, it was supposed to be various random violent events that created us. Fear is natural and wanting to prevent that which scares us is natural. That all does seem to be within the realm of the "natural order" so doing something, rather than nothing as you imply, IS a part of the natural order.
Now, if you're trying to poke fun at human nature being the Founder's basis for their creation of government, then I don't know what other basis there would be for government. I assume we mean by government, that method with which humans cooperate. I also assume that cooperation is part of the natural order. But so is violence against that cooperation, as is selfishness, as is evil, as are all things human, human nature being a part of the natural order.
The Founder's understood the conflicting natural tendencies in humans. They understood the tendency to give up freedom for security. They understood the tendency of majority suppression of minorities because of various "natural" fears and desires.
That Constitution was not a prescription for doing nothing and letting "the natural order to take over." It was, rather, a recognition of our nature and a governance of it so as to allow individuals their optimum power to realize their personal natural desires. It was "doing something" about the human condition to reign in the destructive portions of our nature, not to loose them upon society. And part of that doing something was not to institute despotic or dictatorial rules that violate our natural and constitutional rights. It was not meant that we should react to fear or momentary emotions to create such rules.
That Constitution was not a prescription for doing nothing and letting "the natural order to take over." It was, rather, a recognition of our nature and a governance of it so as to allow individuals their optimum power to realize their personal natural desires. It was "doing something" about the human condition to reign in the destructive portions of our nature, not to loose them upon society. And part of that doing something was not to institute despotic or dictatorial rules that violate our natural and constitutional rights. It was not meant that we should react to fear or momentary emotions to create such rules.
Bingo. The Founding Fathers knew human nature through and through, it's
selfcenterness and quest for power. Having lived under tyrany they knew it
firsthand and were wise enough to write the Constitution in a way to safeguard aganist it.
You're right...we should do nothing and just let natural order take over...
-spence
I see, Spence. So according to you, there are 2 kinds of people.
(1) those who agree that Biden is the man for the job, and
(2) those who don't care about dead kids.
Spence, you are really coming un-glued, and you are really coming across as a horse's ass. I don't want Biden in charge of this, because he's not qualified to handle something this important. He's an un-serious, thoughtless, tired old party hack who will focus all the energy on guns (because his party hates the NRA) and he will do nothing to regulate violence in the entertainment industry (because his party gets huge $$ from Hollywood).
Biden is a joke, a punch-line. If we are serious about taking the reasonable steps to try to reduce the risk of future school massacres, we need someone in charge who won't be limited by what he currently believes, but someone who will be guided by facts and common sense. That ain't Joe Biden.
But congrats on assuming that those who don't think Biden is qualified, don't care about dead little kids.
The wheels are coming off the bus, Spence, you really sound un-hinged.
And for my $0.02, gun control that is forward-looking (meaning, laws that don't confiscate the guns currently out there) can not possibly have a significant impact. Yet 99% of what I hear from Democrats is gun control. I want someone who recognizes that we ned to take a long hard look at the crap our kids get bombarded with.
Oh--Oh! Obama better tell Biden to add bomb control to the gun control thing he's working on.
I guess he's so serious about this issue that he put Biden in charge????....good grief????...I know, I know...."hater"...."Biden is brilliant and well dressed so suck on it".....blah...blah...blah....hilarious...oh... he has, of course , "a very impressive resume"....why, Biden was also named to head the White House Task Force on Working Families, an initiative aimed at improving the economic well being of the middle class.
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