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01-14-2013, 06:17 AM
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How did this end up here? Off to the Pit of Despair it goes.....
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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01-16-2013, 06:07 PM
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Wipe, you have to look at your net throughout the whole year. Not all deductions, especially at the state level are taken out the same each month.
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01-17-2013, 05:33 PM
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Dammit I KNEW I could not get a straight answer.
Jimmy,Spence.....sorry but NO I don't except either of what you say.My paycheck has been EXACTLY the same since before Obama was hired(crappy economy=no pay increase in all those years).As I already stated the ONLY difference here is our Spender-In-Chief's so called "gift".
My payroll company only takes out of my check what is determined by local,state,federal government and myself.The ONLY thing that has changed in all those years is the giving and subsequent taking away of the "gift" and other state and local taxes which have been accounted for.Everything has been accounted for.I'm not an idiot I pay attention to my paycheck quite closely.....I have no choice but to pay attention, I'm Working Class.
What I need explained to me is how Obama can give me a "gift" then take away said "gift" and in the process take more of my money after he takes his "gift" back than he was taking before the "gift".
There is no magic formula my payroll company is using to determine what is withdrawn from my paycheck.What is taken out of my paycheck is once again determined by local,state,fed and myself.2% should be nothing more than 2% and yet it is not under this admin,2% "pre-gift" does not equal 2% "post-gift".What it boils down to is Obama has found a way to make 2% more than 2%.The amount of money being taken out of my check for SS is now more than it was before the "gift" and yet 2% should equal 2% and yet is does not under this admin.
Once again I ask where has my $26 gone to?
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01-17-2013, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
Once again I ask where has my $26 gone to?
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just chalk it up to Obama math..too frustrating to try to figure it out... 
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01-17-2013, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
Dammit I KNEW I could not get a straight answer.
Jimmy,Spence.....sorry but NO I don't except either of what you say.My paycheck has been EXACTLY the same since before Obama was hired(crappy economy=no pay increase in all those years).As I already stated the ONLY difference here is our Spender-In-Chief's so called "gift".
My payroll company only takes out of my check what is determined by local,state,federal government and myself.The ONLY thing that has changed in all those years is the giving and subsequent taking away of the "gift" and other state and local taxes which have been accounted for.Everything has been accounted for.I'm not an idiot I pay attention to my paycheck quite closely.....I have no choice but to pay attention, I'm Working Class.
What I need explained to me is how Obama can give me a "gift" then take away said "gift" and in the process take more of my money after he takes his "gift" back than he was taking before the "gift".
There is no magic formula my payroll company is using to determine what is withdrawn from my paycheck.What is taken out of my paycheck is once again determined by local,state,fed and myself.2% should be nothing more than 2% and yet it is not under this admin,2% "pre-gift" does not equal 2% "post-gift".What it boils down to is Obama has found a way to make 2% more than 2%.The amount of money being taken out of my check for SS is now more than it was before the "gift" and yet 2% should equal 2% and yet is does not under this admin.
Once again I ask where has my $26 gone to?
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I think you should contact your payroll person and get the details then. The payroll tax doesn't contain any voodoo.
As for the notion of the "gift". Think of it as a nice bottle of booze. You get it as a gift, drink it and enjoy it, then the bottle runs dry...
-spence
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01-17-2013, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
As for the notion of the "gift". Think of it as a nice bottle of booze. You get it as a gift, drink it and enjoy it, then the bottle runs dry...
-spence
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Your analogy would work if you said "You get it as a gift, then receive a bill for 10x the cost of the booze".
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01-18-2013, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Your analogy would work if you said "You get it as a gift, then receive a bill for 10x the cost of the booze".
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and in each case...it's YOUR money..nobody "gave" you anything, they just took less of it and then took credit for being generous and caring and in the tax "holiday" spirit
also, ask your employer...they're matching these contributions for you x however many employees...imagine how they must feel 
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01-18-2013, 11:11 AM
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sick of bluefish
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basswipe, in this extremely bizzaro world that Spence and I agree - serioulsy contact your payroll. They should be able to explain it. You should be able to clearly find out where your $26 went. If you have more than the % being taken out of your pay, thats a problem. Its as simple as that
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01-19-2013, 09:49 AM
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[QUOTE=JohnnyD Employers didn't get a tax break, only the employees.[/QUOTE]
thanks JD...so let's review.....some American tax payers were granted a "Tax Holiday" by the Omnificent(that's for TDF to Google  ) Obama, this "tax holiday" was a reduction of "taxes" paid into Social Security which is, we're told, not really a tax but a form of retirement savings with a guaranteed benefit amount once we survive to a certain age and assuming that it is still exists in some form as it is routinely referred to as one of the unsustainable guaranteed benefits that aren't technically "taxes" , among other things.....this "holiday" was supposed to stimulate the economy and had an expiration date at which time the economy should have been sufficiently stimulated? also, this "holiday" did not apply to employers who make matching contributions to the unsustainable guaranteed benefit on behalf of the employees, thus, they continued to make matching contributions to match contributions not actually being made by some taxpayers to the unsustainable guaranteed benefit during the "tax holiday" period...and now everyone is upset because their paychecks are a little smaller......
no wonder we're so bleeped up..... 
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01-19-2013, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
basswipe, in this extremely bizzaro world that Spence and I agree - serioulsy contact your payroll. They should be able to explain it. You should be able to clearly find out where your $26 went. If you have more than the % being taken out of your pay, thats a problem. Its as simple as that
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I'm sure we agree a lot more than you'd like to admit.
-spence
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01-21-2013, 07:44 AM
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Deval Patrick has decided to say F it and gone off the reservation here in Mass.
Higher income tax
Higher gas tax
Higher tax on taxes.
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-Andrew
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