Hillary

[buckman]

I am shocked that anyone is nieve enough to put any credibility in the ARB report . Such a thorough investigation that they didn't even interview Hicks, the second-in-command to Stevens or Hillary Clinton.
Clinton had the gall to tell the parents, as thier son's body was coming home, that it was the film makers fault. She is a despicable human being.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

Clinton had the gall to tell the parents, as thier son's body was coming home, that it was the film makers fault. She is a despicable human being.
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What makes that even more morally bankrupt, is that the video was made by an American citizen. This is part of the American citizenry whom this wretched witch is supposed to be serving, this guy pays her salary, and she/Obama throw him under the bus (and invite God-knows what kind of retaliation) so they can shield themselves until after an election.

And as you said, what a thorough investigation. No one talked to the #2 in command...

And you are right, she is as disgusting as it gets, and like the Kennedys and her husband, most on her side won't hold her accountable for anything she does. I mean, there are plenty of very decent liberals, and plenty of reprehensible conservatives. But her lack of decency really stands out, there are no depths to which she won't descend, to get what she wants.

I saw video of her original testimony before Congress, banging on her desk, shrieking "4 Americans are dead! What does it matter if it was a video or a terrorist attack!" (then more indignant banging of her fists on the desk). According to her, there's no reason for us to ascertain what happened. After all, her last name is 'Clinton', so who the heck are we, to question her?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I saw video of her original testimony before Congress, banging on her desk, shrieking "4 Americans are dead! What does it matter if it was a video or a terrorist attack!" (then more indignant banging of her fists on the desk).

I saw her do and say that during the live hearing, turned to my wife and said,
She doeth protest too much. The best defense, or shrieking, is the best offense and she played it to the hilt. I can still picture her in those black rimmed glasses acting so self righteous.
I wonder if it would have mattered if Bill were the Benghazi Ambassador?

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I am shocked that anyone is nieve enough to put any credibility in the ARB report . Such a thorough investigation that they didn't even interview Hicks, the second-in-command to Stevens or Hillary Clinton.
Clinton had the gall to tell the parents, as thier son's body was coming home, that it was the film makers fault. She is a despicable human being.
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I'm shocked that your ramp up hasn't let to any real insight on the attacks or their response. For all the hype there doesn't appear to be any new information of substance.

Not to mention the timed leaks with Fox News to promote the hearings...this is such a hit job to promote the idea of a cover up without offering ANY new evidence to support it.

I'm sure Hicks is a good public servant, but the idea that he "thought" air cover would have intimidated the insurgents isn't news...the military says they couldn't have got there in time and wouldn't have been able to refuel.

The other guy Bret Bair showcased last week appears to have credibility issues...Bret has put forth a false timeline of events and here's the opinion of US Marine Corps Officer and Special Team Leader Billy Birdzell...

On April 30, 2013, Fox News aired an interview with a supposed member of U.S. Special Operations Command who said that members of "C-110," who were training in Croatia on September 11, 2012, could have both arrived at the Benghazi consulate in 4-6 hours and arrived before the second attack on the annex during which Tyronne Woods and Glen Doherty were killed. The mystery man critiques the Obama administration's decision-making, yet offers no information as to how C-110 would have influenced the battle in such a way that the outcome would have been different. Perhaps because it was actually impossible for C-110 to arrive before the attack, and if they did, they would not have been able to do anything that would have prevented our heroes, Woods and Doherty, from being killed.

[...]

Assuming magical planes were waiting for the CIF and they were somehow able to physically get to the annex before 0515, mystery man failed to mention that Doherty and Woods were killed by mortar fire. Forty operators armed with rifles and light-machine guns can neither stop mortar rounds nor determine from where the mortar is being fired. The only thing the CIF would have done had they gotten to the annex before 0515 is created more targets and overcrowded the consulate.

Even if the CIF was on ready 5 (fully armed, sitting in the aircraft with pilots at the controls) in Sigonella (the closest European base to Benghazi) with advanced warning of an attack but unsure of the time, and they launched at 2232 on only-in-Hollywood orders from someone other than the president, they would not have been able to do anything about Stevens and Smith's deaths, nor stopped the mortar rounds. Strike three.

The person in the interview is a clown and I am incredibly disappointed in the news for not using Google.

And you guys are foaming at the mouth...You say you want the truth...I call BS. I say you just want a controversy.

Jim, is that doing service to the families of the dead?

-spence

[Sea Dangles]

Whoa Jeff,feeling dramatic?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm shocked that your ramp up hasn't let to any real insight on the attacks or their response. For all the hype there doesn't appear to be any new information of substance.

Not to mention the timed leaks with Fox News to promote the hearings...this is such a hit job to promote the idea of a cover up without offering ANY new evidence to support it.

I'm sure Hicks is a good public servant, but the idea that he "thought" air cover would have intimidated the insurgents isn't news...the military says they couldn't have got there in time and wouldn't have been able to refuel.

The other guy Bret Bair showcased last week appears to have credibility issues...Bret has put forth a false timeline of events and here's the opinion of US Marine Corps Officer and Special Team Leader Billy Birdzell...



And you guys are foaming at the mouth...You say you want the truth...I call BS. I say you just want a controversy.

Jim, is that doing service to the families of the dead?

-spence

"without offering ANY new evidence to support it. "

How about the whistleblowers' testimony? Is that not new evidence? Have they testified before?

"Jim, is that doing service to the families of the dead?"

A political witch hunt offers nothing to the family. A search for the truth offers much to the family. Lindsay Graham is not a right-wing attack dog. I also posted a link, quoting muliple high-ranking democrats as saying that these hearings are necessary.

Spence, are those Democrats on a political witch hunt?

Once again, you cannot allow for even the possibility, that Obama and Clinton were involved in a cover-up to save the election. Maybe that didn't happen, but there is evidence to suggest that took place. Let's get the facts.

Spence...(1) what about the fact that high ranking Democrats are suggesting these hearings are necessary? And (2) what do you think of Hilary saying that it doesn't matter whether it was a video protest or a terrorist attack?

I'm not foaming at the mouth. I simply want to get to the truth. Not Hilary's version of the truth, because she has lied before (that whole sniper fire thing, which you predictably sweep under the rug). I want the actual facts. To you, asking Democrats what happened, is a witch hunt.

[scottw]

[QUOTE=Jim in CT;997847I'm not foaming at the mouth. I simply want to get to the truth. Not Hilary's version of the truth, because she has lied before (that whole sniper fire thing, which you predictably sweep under the rug). I want the actual facts. To you, asking Democrats what happened, is a witch hunt.[/QUOTE]

Bill Ayers is a great guy and doesn't lie....Hillary is a great gal and doesn't lie...but if they did it would probably be understandable and justifiable.....Bengazi and the WU activity over three decades is a figment of your imagination that you've concocted out of your deep hatred for both of them and our president....move long....


see how it works ?

one of the best radio shows in my opinion is the John Batchelor Show...he has a guest on periodically who posts a blog called No Quarter....he had some interesting comments about the folks that Spence mentioned, their qualifications etc...and the quote that he provided from the Birdzell opinion piee...Johnson is "colorful"...and "has a great resume"....which should be more than enough for Spence in terms of qualifications

"The ignorant and inexperience von Richter continues quoting what he thinks, mistakenly, is a dandy source:

In a separate article, U.S. Marine Corps officer and special operations team leader Billy Birdzell called Fox’s source “a clown” and criticized news outlets for “not using Google” before promoting him."

"Birdzell served as a team leader in MARSOC. Wow. Well, MARSOC’s Deputy Commander back then, Colonel Stephen Davis is an old friend and former colleague. I will endeavor to be charitable to Billy. Despite his limited experience in the Marine Corps, he has not been exposed to the full range of the Spec Ops community and certainly has never served with or trained with C-110.

"Having worked directly for a former commander of the Fifth Marines, I know a thing or two about the Marines and their role (or lack thereof) in the Special Ops community. Birdzell and Ricks simply are not correctly informed and do not know what they are talking about."


"I suspect that the shallow, erroneous thought displayed in this piece by our own troll, von Richter, is illustrative of the incompetence and inexperience that surrounded Obama on that fateful night last September. The ignorance and indecision of Obama and Hillary Clinton cost lives. Something could have been done and was not done"

The Flawed Accountability Review Board : NO QUARTER USA NET

I suspect that if Birdzell had written the article critical of the administration and it's actors he'd be dismissed as a low level mal content looking for publicity and attacked as a hater


I guess we'll know more very soon...