81lb Bass?

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by jimmy z

It's what we do, most of us anyhow. We go fishing with the hopes of getting a personal best, or just a decent time out. To me, it would be a BLAST getting a fish that size. I would feel very good, for sure! I would say, thank you Lord, and call it a day!

[Nebe]

I dont meant to stir the pot here, but i just read that this guy caught a 60 lber a few days before the 81 lber..

hmmmmmmmmm Makes you wonder.

[StriperZ]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I dont meant to stir the pot here, but i just read that this guy caught a 60 lber a few days before the 81 lber..

hmmmmmmmmm Makes you wonder.

Makes me wonder where he was fishing, and why was I not there.

[Nebe]

I think the person who posted what i read is mistaken.. he did land a 60 in early july.. not in the same week.

[BasicPatrick]

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Striped Bass All-Tackle Record Challenged

News has spread quickly of Greg Myerson’s recent striped bass catch in Connecticut, USA as a potential contender for the All-Tackle title. As one would expect, this application is causing quite a buzz; if approved, Myerson’s catch would break a 29 year old record for one of North America’s most popular inshore saltwater species. Myerson’s application arrived at IGFA late last and the review process is now underway. Several IGFA staff, including the President,will review all materials and testimonies before making a decision; in the meantime, here’s a look at the record Myerson’s catch is challenging:

Current All Tackle Striped Bass Record

Angler: Albert McReynolds
Catch Date: September 21, 1982
Catch Place: Atlantic City, New Jersey, USA
Weight: 35.6 kg (78 lb 8 oz)

[BasicPatrick]

The application for the record has been filed. The process is underway. The fish will be judged. Congrats MR Meyerson...I think you did it right.

[animal]

Eff Jerz!

[Sea Dangles]

Word is the fish,scale,tackle shop and angler have all been maligned by the OTW staff.The scale was recently certified by CT weights and measures and the fish is at NE taxidermy.

[piemma]

I stand by what I first posted the day it was caught...I believe he broke the record. He has caught too many big fish to fabricate a story, stuff a fish or do anything dishonest.

[rizzo]

But all this stuff still means nothing if the fish isnt opened up and reweighed. The taxidermist will probably find nothing in the fish, but what does the fish weigh if theres nothing in it?

[Sea Dangles]

The fish has already been weighed on a scale that has been certified.Why would it have to be reweighed?People have to stop assuming wrongdoing here and let things unfold as they would in any other scenario.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The fish has already been weighed on a scale that has been certified.Why would it have to be reweighed?People have to stop assuming wrongdoing here and let things unfold as they would in any other scenario.

well said.

[stripermaineiac]

Too much jealousy for that. those that can't will always try to discredit those that do.

[Rockfish9]

I'm glad the fish has been submitted... this should put it to bed for good.. as i said in my original ost.. helluva fish.. I'd like to shake his hand.

[rizzo]

I will forever doubt it, unless the fish is gutted and checked. I dont know the angler, scale operator and most people on this board, so why would I trust random peoples judgment on it? So what if it was weighed on a certified scale, it could have been stuffed? Gut it at the taxidermist, see whats in there. Reweigh the entire fish and contents on a certified scale and see what you get. If the fish is around 80 pounds still, the record can solidly be confirmed. If the fish comes in at 50, it was a cheat as 30 pounds are missing from the equation.

This has nothing to do with jealousy, discredit or whatever. Its just common sense from my point of view, and I will never believe its true until its is actually proven true. So what if IGFA certifies it based on "the story" or looking at the outside of the fish? The fishing world is full of BS stories, exageration, blah blah - you really have to prove it true. If they can prove it true, yeah I couldnt be happier for the guy. Its cool to see the record go to someone who fishes all the time and can appreciate the accomplishment.

My opinion is that you gotta fish for yourself. If you try to "keep up with the Jones" you'll always be left miserable and empty.

[stripermaineiac]

LOL Well I've never seen China so I guess it isn't there LOL Oh thats right my oppinion really doesn't count as those in the appointed positions do have an oppinion that counts. If I don't like it then i guess that I need to get a job in one of those positions so my oppinion does count. LOL Sweet fish wish it were mine but I seem to loose the giants like that LOL

[spence]

I hope that fish still has all it's scales, if not, that could raise more questions than it answers.

-spence

[Mr. Sandman]

I am happy for the fellow and glad to see the previous record eclipsed(Which IMO was highly dubious!!! from everything I read, including "his own words")
That said I still think Tony S has the real bass record...boat bass don't (or should not) count.

One thing that bothers me though...there seems to be a lot of parallels the big fish caught now and the big fish caught in '81-82....a few big ones (records) in both cases with an extreme drop off in young populations...this is not looking good in my view for the future and I hope I am not the only one who is noticing this.

[Rockfish9]

Originally Posted by rizzo

I will forever doubt it, unless the fish is gutted and checked. I dont know the angler, scale operator and most people on this board, so why would I trust random peoples judgment on it? So what if it was weighed on a certified scale, it could have been stuffed? Gut it at the taxidermist, see whats in there. Reweigh the entire fish and contents on a certified scale and see what you get. If the fish is around 80 pounds still, the record can solidly be confirmed. If the fish comes in at 50, it was a cheat as 30 pounds are missing from the equation.

This has nothing to do with jealousy, discredit or whatever. Its just common sense from my point of view, and I will never believe its true until its is actually proven true. So what if IGFA certifies it based on "the story" or looking at the outside of the fish? The fishing world is full of BS stories, exageration, blah blah - you really have to prove it true. If they can prove it true, yeah I couldnt be happier for the guy. Its cool to see the record go to someone who fishes all the time and can appreciate the accomplishment.

My opinion is that you gotta fish for yourself. If you try to "keep up with the Jones" you'll always be left miserable and empty.

it's called faith... faith in man kind that the majority of people have pure hearts and intentions... I'm glad I grew up in a time when a mans word was the gold standard... for better or for worse, I still believe in it... innocent until proven guilty.

I do agree with one thing.. and I preach it at seminars and to green horns as well as vetrans... be only concerned with what you can accomplish.. dont get caught up in with what others are doing or may have done...yesterday is the past.. tomorrow is a brand new day.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rockfish9

it's called faith...

It's also called process. The IFGA has a process they believe is trustworthy enough to warrant their accreditation. It's like a scientific fact, perhaps never 100% but close enough...

Don't be a doubter without reason, it will kill your fish karma

-spence

[onecastmike2003]

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by Rockfish9

it's called faith... faith in man kind that the majority of people have pure hearts and intentions... I'm glad I grew up in a time when a mans word was the gold standard... for better or for worse, I still believe in it... innocent until proven guilty.

I do agree with one thing.. and I preach it at seminars and to green horns as well as vetrans... be only concerned with what you can accomplish.. dont get caught up in with what others are doing or may have done...yesterday is the past.. tomorrow is a brand new day.

Great way to look at things.

I can't imagine what it's like to go through life with such a negative attitude that you have to doubt others and diminish their accomplishments. People who do that must be real fun to be around.

[rizzo]

Originally Posted by spence

Don't be a doubter without reason, it will kill your fish karma

-spence

Reasonable doubt - that is what I have. I've yet to see a reason to completely prove it true, so until then I don't believe it given all the things that have happened on this one. More facts pointing toward its false than true.

The IGFA process isn't fact if they don't examine the fish. Its based on someone's claim and it may be true, may not be true. I put my 2 cents in on this one and have nothing more to add. I will not believe it until it goes through the gutting!

[Sea Dangles]

For better or worse gutting isn't part of the process for IGFA or OTW striper cup fish.Although I have been told OTW,like Rizzo,wanted to change the rules midstream. If you have ever seen the IGFA record book then you know they take things seriously. There are numerous line class records for every species. The IGFA is in possession of the leader allegedly used to catch this whopper and the decision will not come in haste. For guys like Rizzo there will never be the proof he hopes for. I would hope that any record,be it all tackle or line class would be submitted with honesty. Beyond that anything negative seems like sour grapes.There are enough cynics in the world to poison the well;they make the impression of a turd in the punch bowl.When you question a mans word it cant be taken lightly.

[clambelly]

Originally Posted by rizzo

Reasonable doubt - that is what I have. I've yet to see a reason to completely prove it true, so until then I don't believe it given all the things that have happened on this one. More facts pointing toward its false than true.

what reasons have you seen that prove it to be false?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Don't take this the wrong way....But If I was the Angler, or IGFA for that matter.....I really wouldn't give a rats ass what somebody, who I've never met or is out on the internet, cares about the validity of the fish.

Would not lose one minutes sleep over it....

I would know....and thats good enough for me....

[Sea Dangles]

Yeah TDF, what would you do with sposorships and appearance fees,speaking engagements,etc. that go with IGFA validity?He should have put it back I guess.Skip the potential new boat and stay locked on S-B with all of your internet buddies debating how a flag should be displayed.Anonymity is good.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think the person who posted what i read is mistaken.. he did land a 60 in early july.. not in the same week.

He caught a 61 in June, and then wieghed in a 61 a few days ago, on Aug 12.

[fatcow]

I hope hes at striperfest so i can buy him a beer.

[CowHunter]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

For better or worse gutting isn't part of the process for IGFA or OTW striper cup fish.Although I have been told OTW,like Rizzo,wanted to change the rules midstream. If you have ever seen the IGFA record book then you know they take things seriously. There are numerous line class records for every species. The IGFA is in possession of the leader allegedly used to catch this whopper and the decision will not come in haste. For guys like Rizzo there will never be the proof he hopes for. I would hope that any record,be it all tackle or line class would be submitted with honesty. Beyond that anything negative seems like sour grapes.There are enough cynics in the world to poison the well;they make the impression of a turd in the punch bowl.When you question a mans word it cant be taken lightly.

Chris, any idea what difference the leader material will make???? Its gonna be an all tackle record once approved so I dont think it will matter. Its like the OTW Writer took a scale, well that will show the age of the fish, maybe 24 years or so, but in no way that determines the wieght. We all know that the wieght of any fish of the same length can vary greatly. The length to fork, length to tail and girth measurements they will use and am sure to a certain tolerance they will determine if there is anything way off. I am sure with all the controversey they will give a polygraph and if should pass will certify the fish. GM made a bold predictment on his facebook page a few months ago that the world record bass would fall this summer, boy was he right! (The Entire FB Page has been recently removed). I have seen and heard some very valid points made by some experienced anglers regarding this fish and previous fish, and I really dont think there is anything wrong with being a skeptic if there are discrepencies that raise questions. I know you may think otherwise but I did not make a single complaint to OTW prior to this WR Fish, I know there were quite a few complaints by others.

I ask some on the board, out of curiosity, Just by the natural scale of things, how many 40's do you have to catch before you catch a 50? Then how many 50's before you catch a 60? OF course anyone can get lucky and catch a wr, its a big ocean, but the probabilites of catching more 60's than 50's or 40's?

And not that it matters, but the fish is definately not at NE Taxedermy.